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17" wheel conversion project underway (with pictures)
« on: December 27, 2016, 10:14:49 pm »
Ok a little change of the thread here now that I have the wheels and all of the parts needed. Got a nice Meanstreak rear and
a ZR-7 front. Wheels are at the powder coating place getting the pretty put on them. Got two new 17" Metzlers waiting in the
shop along with new wheel bearings and 90 degree valve stems. As soon as the wheels come back from the powder coating shop
I will post pictures. This thing is about to happen !!!   
« Last Edit: January 17, 2017, 06:06:42 pm by Jim Snyder »
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Re: 17" front wheel conversion question
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2016, 11:56:47 am »
Yes.
If you don't have time to do it right, when do you have time to do it over.                                                                17" wheels, Nissin 4 piston calipers.1kg Sonic Springs.Cartridge Fork Emulators. KB Brace. Galfer brake lines  Free power mod.

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Re: 17" front wheel conversion question
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2016, 11:52:29 pm »
Yes.

Thanks Pb,
  I have a nice ZR7S wheel on the way.
You are welcome!. Happy New Year! You will love the conversion. Time for 4 piston front brakes next!
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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2017, 01:28:53 am »
Ok a little change of the thread here now that I have the wheels and all of the parts needed. Got a nice Meanstreak rear and
a ZR-7 front. Wheels are at the powder coating place getting the pretty put on them. Got two new 17" Metzlers waiting in the
shop along with new wheel bearings and 90 degree valve stems. As soon as the wheels come back from the powder coating shop
I will post pictures. This thing is about to happen !!!
You are going to love this conversion. ZX6 sppedo drive will correct the speedometer error. 90-93 ZX6 front fender is a bolt on.
If you don't have time to do it right, when do you have time to do it over.                                                                17" wheels, Nissin 4 piston calipers.1kg Sonic Springs.Cartridge Fork Emulators. KB Brace. Galfer brake lines  Free power mod.

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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2017, 12:38:44 pm »
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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2017, 04:55:01 pm »
Waiting (err) patiently....................??
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Re: 17" wheel conversion project (Complete)
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2017, 06:06:15 pm »
Ok just got the wheels back from the powder coating place and they look amazing. The color is Anthracite Metallic with clear coat.
Now the work begins (as soon as I get a day off). Stay tuned.
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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway (with pictures)
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2017, 07:52:38 pm »
Wow! That's going to look great!
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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway (with pictures)
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2017, 12:42:56 am »
Very nice Jim!  Better shine up the rest of the bike to match!   ;D

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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway (with pictures)
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 01:36:45 pm »
Very nice Jim!  Better shine up the rest of the bike to match!   ;D
Uh.. Er..  The wheels do look schweet. But shine the bike?  :rotflmao:
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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway (with pictures)
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2017, 02:28:49 pm »
sweet, not a common color..the mk4 supra came in anthracite one year


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Re: 17" wheel conversion project (Complete)
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2017, 03:19:37 am »
Ok the conversion project is complete. Everything went pretty much without a hitch except for the front brakes. The larger ZX-10 calipers would not got onto the rotors without bumping the wheel. Had to unbolt them and lean them out to get them on and reinstall. But no biggie. The color on these wheels is awesome. I have an old ZX6 front fender coming so it will look more in scale. Can't wait to get it out on the road for a test drive. Thanks to all who gave me input along the way.   
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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway (with pictures)
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2017, 07:59:52 pm »
Looks great! Nice job, Jim. What bike did the rear caliper come off of?
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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway (with pictures)
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2017, 08:05:06 pm »
Looks great! Nice job, Jim. What bike did the rear caliper come off of?

A Vulcan 900. You have to add a small tab to the original bracket but it bolts right up to the stock Connie
brake holder. I have also modded several C-10 front calipers to fit the rear like this. As a matter of fact that
was the first two pot brake caliper I had on the rear before I did the Vulcan one. 
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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway (with pictures)
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2017, 11:03:49 am »
I'm interested in hearing the ride report. Jim has a reputation of being able to make the c-10 "dance" . :great: Steve
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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway (with pictures)
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2017, 02:38:15 pm »
Jim, why the rear caliper swap?  given that my 2 piston rear locks up the wheel too easy, I can't imagine what a 4 piston would do.   :o

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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway (with pictures)
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2017, 02:54:10 pm »
Jim built one of these for my C-10. (on mine, we used a front C-10 caliper)
I had the same concerns as you, {I already lock the rear brake too easily}.

But his 2 Pot Caliper mod,,, doesn't lock the rear wheel as quickly as stock..  :??:
  I think this is because the 2 pots require more brake fluid to move.
  So, it takes slightly more pedal movement and gives you more control.

I'm anxiously waiting for his ride report too.
   I ride with him quite a bit and I can confirm what Steve said. He can make his C-10 dance..

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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway (with pictures)
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2017, 04:51:16 pm »
Jim, why the rear caliper swap?  given that my 2 piston rear locks up the wheel too easy, I can't imagine what a 4 piston would do.   :o

The stock C-10 rear brake is a one piston not two. The one I have on the rear now is a two pot not a four. The stock one pot was very easy to lock up.
The two pot gives more braking with less input. And just as important is the fact that it looks cool !!! 
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2017, 05:05:59 pm »
ok, so a point of learning and clarification.  I've always referred to "pot" as the number of pairs of pistons, but when talking "pistons", there's one on each side of the "pot", so to me, I have a 3 pot ZRX caliper on the front which is a 6 piston caliper.

how do you experts refer to them?  this is very important and I'm not going to sleep until I know.   :-[

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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2017, 05:08:44 pm »
BTW....Ted volunteered that you are going to make one of these for me to fit to my C10 that'll be running a sidecar.   >:D

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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2017, 05:13:44 pm »
BTW....Ted volunteered that you are going to make one of these for me to fit to my C10 that'll be running a sidecar.   >:D

You bet ya. When you get ready send me an old front C-10 caliper and I will fix you up.
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2017, 05:18:20 pm »
BTW....Ted volunteered that you are going to make one of these for me to fit to my C10 that'll be running a sidecar.   >:D

You bet ya. When you get ready send me an old front C-10 caliper and I will fix you up.

you need a left hand one, correct?  that way it's swapped around on the right rear?

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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2017, 05:21:05 pm »
ok, so a point of learning and clarification.  I've always referred to "pot" as the number of pairs of pistons, but when talking "pistons", there's one on each side of the "pot", so to me, I have a 3 pot ZRX caliper on the front which is a 6 piston caliper.

how do you experts refer to them?  this is very important and I'm not going to sleep until I know.   :-[

When they refer to pistons or pots it refers to how many pistons are present to push on the brake pads. A stock C-10 rear caliper only has one
large piston pushing from the outside. The inside of the stock rear caliper is nothing more than a brace for the inner pad and does not move but
merely holds the inner pad against the rotor while the outer pad is pushed against the rotor. The two piston I have on the rear works exactly the
same. The two outer pistons are pushing inward but the inner pad is being held against the rotor. An actual 4 pot caliper has 4 pistons two pushing
from each side of the rotor. A six pot caliper is the same, it gas three pistons on each side. So your six pot calipers have 12 pots total. Hope that
explains it.           
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Re: 17" wheel conversion project underway (with pictures)
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2017, 05:26:16 pm »
BTW....Ted volunteered that you are going to make one of these for me to fit to my C10 that'll be running a sidecar.   >:D

You bet ya. When you get ready send me an old front C-10 caliper and I will fix you up.

you need a left hand one, correct?  that way it's swapped around on the right rear?

It will be the one pictured. With the large piston on the left and the little tab behind the banjo bolt hole.
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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2017, 06:03:50 pm »
BTW....Ted volunteered that you are going to make one of these for me to fit to my C10 that'll be running a sidecar.   >:D

You bet ya. When you get ready send me an old front C-10 caliper and I will fix you up.

you need a left hand one, correct?  that way it's swapped around on the right rear?

It will be the one pictured. With the large piston on the left and the little tab behind the banjo bolt hole.

can you post that pic bigger?  I can't make out the detail.