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Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- need help!
« on: July 14, 2012, 04:25:08 am »
This is day nine of our 18 day trip west. I have about 4000 miles on a new set of BT45s that I installed just before we left. I put them on antcipating I'd at least make the 6500 mile trip without a tire change. So- here it is Friday night, weekend coming, and I have approximately 1/16" left to the wear bars on the rear. I don't know if it was the agressive riding, or the extended interstate miles, but most of the wear is in the center. BTW- I'm running 42 psi in the rear, 40 front. Tonight we're just east of Reno, with almost 3000 miles left on the itinerary before we get back to Wisconsin. I've scoped out Kawasaki dealers, and the only option I've found on our path, negating the weekend, is in Cortez, CO, about 1800 miles down our path.
  Can anyone help? We'll be in Cedar City,UT tomorrow night, Kanab, UT Sunday, Page, AZ on Monday, then Cortez Tuesday. I'm looking for a tire somewhere along out route, preferably another BT45 to match the front, and a way to get it put on.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
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« Last Edit: July 22, 2012, 12:24:09 am by cafefill »

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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2012, 04:31:04 am »
Should have added this to the first post. You can contact me directly at 920-740-6140. I'll check for voicemails periodically.
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2012, 07:06:53 am »
Motorcycle superstore will ship one anywhere you want and might be able locate an installer where you need it .
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2012, 08:24:39 am »
Motorcycle superstore will ship one anywhere you want and might be able locate an installer where you need it .
I second that! And the tire should be there in a day maybe two. Click on there "preferred installer" link to find someone to ship the tire to.
Anyone ever tried running lower PSi in order to wear out/ride on the outer edges of their tire? I know with car tires, to much air causes the middle to prematurely wear out, and to low PSi causes the outside to wear to fast.

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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2012, 09:03:02 am »
I just put 4000 on my BT in the last couple weeks and its fine plenty left . Running 40 psi . Different road surfaces maybe ? You might need to settle for whatever you can get from a shop along the way .
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2012, 09:13:09 am »
BTW, my tire installer just set my rear tire at 39 PSi, at 41 PSi my tire wore the middle out first (Bridgestone BT45V "battlax"), but to be fair, I bought the bike with this tire on it, the middle being worn pretty low (and a REALLY BIG chicken strip), I still rode 4000 miles on it and just replaced it yesterday, mainly because of a 450 mile ride that "just did the tire in".

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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2012, 11:36:01 pm »
I've been waiting two weeks for that tire at Bike Bandit. (backorder) >:(
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2012, 08:04:17 am »
Try Rockymountainatv.com, that's where I picked mine up at, took 2 days to get to me.

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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2012, 01:03:30 pm »
Thanks 6. But they say they're out of stock also. Good luck Cafefill. Let us know how you make out.
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2012, 04:29:34 pm »
Cafefill,
You may have to go with the 160 Goldwing size on the rear to get you through your trip. Most shops have the Goldwing sizes in stock. I had a buddy here that was in need of a front and he went with the 130 on the front. Just a thought.

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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 10:49:58 pm »

   Lower tire pressures will increase heat buildup reducing tire life!

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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2012, 12:47:53 am »
Sometimes ya just gotta go with something that holds air, is black, round, and fits. Tire shopping on a trip sucks. I just went through that last month a an Avon Venom that went t1ts up on me. I did luck as I was staying less than twenty miles from Dennis Kirk, though they did not have the Shinko in stock that I preferred. Michelin Commander II went on it, I like the tire. Stock size. You may find one at a Harley dealer, same size fits a lot of their stuff.

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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2012, 01:41:17 am »
  You're right- changing a tire on a trip puts you at the mercy of some pretty unscrupulous shops. I called a friend at home, and let him do the legwork. He found a shop on our route that could have a BT45 ready for me when I got there. The cost: $235 for the tire, and $125 to install. Ouch. I was even going to go through with it until the engine blew. That kinda aced it. The dealer still charged me $35 to ship the tire back.
  I was under the impression that I could make the 7000 miles on a BT45 rear, but that certainly wasn't the case. At 4000 miles, I was right down almost to the wear bars. Kinda makes the case for me to go to ME880s on the next trip, and sacrifice a bit of the performance for longivity.
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2012, 11:07:56 am »
Really, do not go the 880 route. I've heard goos on Dunlop Elite 3(Lead Wing size), and I'm liking the Michelin Commander II more and more as time passes. Only 2k miles, but wear rate looks good.

http://www.michelin.com/corporate/EN/news/products/article?articleID=N20110823_cp_commanderII_EN
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2012, 11:13:30 am »
Really, do not go the 880 route. I've heard goos on Dunlop Elite 3(Lead Wing size), and I'm liking the Michelin Commander II more and more as time passes. Only 2k miles, but wear rate looks good.

http://www.michelin.com/corporate/EN/news/products/article?articleID=N20110823_cp_commanderII_EN


I've just installed a Commander II also. I've only put on about 100 miles so can't say anything about wear yet. So far I like the ride and I'm starting to test it in the twisties to gain confidence in this tire. I'm hoping to get more than the typical 8000 miles that I'm used to with the old Dunlop 250s.
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2012, 01:05:35 pm »
It might have been the multitude of seal coated roads out west, with all that exposed aggregate, that did the tire in. But- if getting only 4000 miles out of the rear what's going to happen with the BT45, I'm done with them.
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2012, 01:59:42 pm »
I want a tire that will give me 15k and reasonably good handling in the curves. Is that asking too much? >:(
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2012, 11:56:07 pm »
Cafefill, did you say your motor went away?

if not,,,
I'm a bit late into this discussion, but the easiest thing you coulda done is contact Murph.
He started carrying Avon Belted and radial tires.
He would have sent a tire to some location for ya.
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2012, 12:07:50 am »
I want a tire that will give me 15k and reasonably good handling in the curves. Is that asking too much? >:(

I can't even get that for my car!
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2012, 12:23:36 am »
  Yup- motor went away. This is a 2003 C10 with only 18,600 miles. Valves were adjusted, Amsoil in the sump, new tires, air filter, all the good stuff. Ran like a top for 4000 miles and bang- black smoke and oil in the exhaust. Can't explain it, but the train trip home to Wisconsin from Utah sure was interesting. The bike is being shipped back on a truck.
  After I rebuild this motor or a donor motor, depending on what failed, I'm strongly considering the 17" wheel conversion. IMHO this might be the only way to get some decent long distance rubber on the machine. Bear in mind this was supposed to be a 7000 mile trip. And so it goes...
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2012, 01:31:52 am »
I want a tire that will give me 15k and reasonably good handling in the curves. Is that asking too much? >:(

I have tires like this. I ride them up and down Candy mountain road stopping at the caramel stream and resting under the cotton candy tree.  :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :nananana:

The only tire that came even close to this was the Michelin 100X series that Michelin discontinued about five years ago.  >:(

Yes you are asking for something that does not nor ever will exist.
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2012, 11:54:12 pm »
I want a tire that will give me 15k and reasonably good handling in the curves. Is that asking too much? >:(



Yes you are asking for something that does not nor ever will exist.
I may be able to argue that point in 13,000 miles.
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- neded help!
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2012, 01:05:09 am »
I want a tire that will give me 15k and reasonably good handling in the curves. Is that asking too much? >:(



Yes you are asking for something that does not nor ever will exist.
I may be able to argue that point in 13,000 miles.

Not trying to be anything other than incredibly sceptical. I ask that you prove it.
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- need help!
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2012, 01:00:27 pm »
Michelin is touting much better milage from the Commander II. I don't think anyone has run them long enough to know yet what they will actually do. I just put one on. I'll know in a year what it will do. Anybody else run one any longer yet?
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Re: Bt45 rear going at 4000 miles- need help!
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2012, 02:07:20 pm »
I just finnished a 3,700 mile trip out west with the much debated 880 rear (stock size).  It works just fine for me on the aggregate backroads in 90 degree heat.  I don't drag pegs on iunfamiliar roads hundreds of miles from home  ;D  I hated the constant monitoring and anxiety of tires wearing out at 6K or less.  I might get 12K out of this one, about two Z6's up front to one rear.  Yea, it's a little slick in the wet and cold but I avoid both and don't commute.  However, this new Comander might just be the perfect compromise.