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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2014, 03:24:15 pm »
Don't bother to try and debate (not argue) the "darkside" point of view...If you are too cheap to spend the small amount of cash it requires to participate in the sport of motorcycling by being responsible and buying a motorcycle tire..Then you really shouldn't be riding anyway...  :-\

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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2014, 03:32:52 pm »
never mind....self edited....not worth the trouble......
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2014, 03:39:11 pm »
Dan's been trying to get me to go dark for years (I think he has long since given up), but I've been reluctant to try (not really like me unless it cost money).  This is about as cheap a try as anyone could ask for.  It's also not a very good looking tire for the job compared to the profiles of some of the ones that fit the 15" rims. 

Maxxie, I'm anxious fer you to give it a shot and give us a good report (good or bad) on it.  Dan has told me it takes more pressure to hold the bike over, but not a lot more.  And there is the "getting over the hump" thing of going up on the edge.  But he says once you're used to the feel, it's as good as anything else.
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2014, 11:06:55 pm »
Don't bother to try and debate (not argue) the "darkside" point of view...If you are too cheap to spend the small amount of cash it requires to participate in the sport of motorcycling by being responsible and buying a motorcycle tire..Then you really shouldn't be riding anyway...  :-\

dumbest comment ever right here i think.
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2014, 11:10:07 pm »
BOYS, don't make me turn this thread around !!    :-\   I'll do it and we all will stay home  :-[

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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2014, 11:17:13 pm »
BOYS, don't make me turn this thread around !!    :-\   I'll do it and we all will stay home  :-[

 :'( HE STARTED IIIIIIIIIT!!!!  :D
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2014, 12:32:24 am »
I really think this is all can be summed up in 4 words " To each his own "

We all do things on a normal day that the next guy would not agree with. I for one would never ride a car tire on a bike. That is just me but there are guys out there who swear buy it, have not had any incidents and it just works for them. It truly is up to you if you want to try out something that is considered taboo and hopefully you never have any problems.

Look at how we mod our scoots. There are simple things we do that could put our lives in danger from expereimenting with air pressure to adding farkles. You never know the outcome. But also it is the people who do put thier scoots on the line and sometimes thier safety to bring new and improved was of riding and parts we use on our scoots. If it were not for the curious I don't know where we would be today..
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2014, 12:41:44 am »
Never had any trouble from it.. Whether it was two up, or attacking the b-roads. Only word of warning is that you will have "Fun" putting it on by hand. We used a tire machine and still had an entertaining time of it.

Either way. Enjoy! and if you don't like it not much investment, right???
exactly, and i WILL be putting this on by hand  :-\  :)

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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2014, 12:42:10 am »
I really think this is all can be summed up in 4 words " To each his own "

We all do things on a normal day that the next guy would not agree with. I for one would never ride a car tire on a bike. That is just me but there are guys out there who swear buy it, have not had any incidents and it just works for them. It truly is up to you if you want to try out something that is considered taboo and hopefully you never have any problems.

Look at how we mod our scoots. There are simple things we do that could put our lives in danger from expereimenting with air pressure to adding farkles. You never know the outcome. But also it is the people who do put thier scoots on the line and sometimes thier safety to bring new and improved was of riding and parts we use on our scoots. If it were not for the curious I don't know where we would be today..

X, I had to chuckle a little when I read this.  see the other thread about wearing gear.  I think you would just change that part and re-write this in that thread and be 100% correct there too!   :great: :beerchug:

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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2014, 07:14:57 am »
For most people out there just riding a motorcycle is way too dangerous.  :motonoises:
Personally i wouldn't mind "darksiding" on my C10 but it's illegal here and annual inspections make it too much effort.
I'm hoping that the Avon 3D X-M rear will last longer than the Azaro.
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2014, 10:40:42 am »
I have the Azaros' as well and they are great when new but they do wear down fast.
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2014, 02:36:32 pm »
I have seen car tires on a bike before but I don't understand what the benefit is. Is there an advantage to mount a car tire on a touring bike?

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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2014, 02:39:23 pm »
Is milage the only reason people put a car tire on the back of a bike? (not including drag bikes!) Since I like scraping pegs, I never thought about putting one on. A Gold Wing isn't a bad handling bike for what it is, but I know I scrape parts very easy on one. I find my FJR scrapes easy...and for me a huge part of riding is playing in corners as well as long distance travel.  And as Boomer said, we have anual inspections, and I have been told it's illegal, so having TWO Mean Streak wheels is too much trouble for me.
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2014, 08:18:40 pm »
you will have "Fun" putting it on by hand. We used a tire machine and still had an entertaining time of it.
exactly, and i WILL be putting this on by hand  :-\  :)
Please report back on the mounting difficulty level & your impression of the handling.
I guess with the smaller diameter it won't rub the fender like another CT did.
I've thought about this & was surprised to see the CT experiment revived.  :motonoises:
It would be a $58.68 experiment for me assuming it's mountable.
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2014, 08:39:59 pm »
I have seen car tires on a bike before but I don't understand what the benefit is. Is there an advantage to mount a car tire on a touring bike?

Longer mileage from the tire. ~20k for a car tire. Varied results from motorcyle tire, wit ~10k for me on average.

I'm not into debating use, but if you are interested in a technical view of this, Fred Harmon wrote a very good opinion on this topic some time ago. A very good read.

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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2014, 12:01:24 am »
you will have "Fun" putting it on by hand. We used a tire machine and still had an entertaining time of it.
exactly, and i WILL be putting this on by hand  :-\  :)
Please report back on the mounting difficulty level & your impression of the handling.
I guess with the smaller diameter it won't rub the fender like another CT did.
I've thought about this & was surprised to see the CT experiment revived.  :motonoises:
It would be a $58.68 experiment for me assuming it's mountable.

the mount will happen this weekend..installing on the bike and riding it...pfff, who knows when i will have time for that :-/
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2014, 01:18:35 pm »
While I don't have experience going to the darkside on my connie, I do have experience with the darkside on my mean streak.  My reasons for going to a 205/50 Dunlop car tires weren't just for the mileage of the tire, but also for the traction quality. 

The problem was that while the mean streak had excellent handling characteristics, the torque had a tendency of breaking traction when I didn't need it to.  It was more power than what a regular MC tire could hold up to.  Now I'm sure riding characteristics could be tied into it as well.

But after putting on the car tire, the bike was:

-More Stable and gave A LOT of positive feedback
-Provided much better traction in wet weather conditions
-Better traction all together
-Much better mileage

As for the handling characteristics, while it does have a different "feel" to her, with a car tire you know exactly where your bike is and at what angle the tire is at.  There is a slight bit of effort but not much compared to before.  I tore up the three sisters out at Garner State Park in West Texas and was playing keep up with my buddy on his FJR.  I can tell you most of the guys that were with us did not like riding behind me because of how the tire looked when I was going through the twisties.

And I paid about $100 for the car tire I used from Dunlop.  Had a nice tread cut to it as well, but I can tell you the cost between the two was not the key factor in my decision.  The picture below is a couple other riders mean streaks with the same profile tire.
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2014, 01:34:08 pm »
the mount will happen this weekend..installing on the bike and riding it...pfff, who knows when i will have time for that :-/
Assuming all goes well, would you happen to be bringing that bike to the national rally in June?
I'd love a look see & possibly defend you from crazed critics. ::)
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2014, 02:23:51 pm »
the mount will happen this weekend..installing on the bike and riding it...pfff, who knows when i will have time for that :-/
Assuming all goes well, would you happen to be bringing that bike to the national rally in June?
I'd love a look see & possibly defend you from crazed critics. ::)

no sir, i have waaaaaay too much going on to even think about riding right now, not to mention a shiz-ton pile of work left to finish my turbo c-10 before i can ride it.
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #44 on: May 30, 2014, 07:42:32 pm »
For most people out there just riding a motorcycle is way too dangerous.  :motonoises:
Personally i wouldn't mind "darksiding" on my C10 but it's illegal here and annual inspections make it too much effort.
I'm hoping that the Avon 3D X-M rear will last longer than the Azaro.

Boomer, are the Avon 3D X-M tires available in Eu?
If so,,, do you have 1 installed?
If so,,, what do you think of it?

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« Reply #45 on: May 30, 2014, 08:23:24 pm »
not to mention a shiz-ton pile of work left to finish my turbo c-10 before i can ride it.
If possible maybe snap a couple pics & post them?
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2014, 12:20:30 am »
not to mention a shiz-ton pile of work left to finish my turbo c-10 before i can ride it.
If possible maybe snap a couple pics & post them?
Thanks


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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2014, 01:25:29 pm »
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2014, 10:58:28 pm »
here ya go http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,37911.0.html
Ummm, I'm not seein any mounted tar pics there.  :o


nope, not yet, but thought you wanted to see my turbo project...oh well.
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Re: car tires on stock rim
« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2014, 09:57:32 pm »
here ya go http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,37911.0.html
Ummm, I'm not seein any mounted tar pics there.  :o


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