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Educate me please......
« on: November 08, 2011, 04:37:31 am »
I'm looking at getting a 17" front wheel for my 06 Connie. The choices are from these bikes

Kawasaki ZR750 C1-C3 (1990-1993)
Kawasaki ZR7/ ZR7S F2/ H1-H5 (2000-2005)
Kawasaki ZX6 D1-D4 (1990-1993)
Kawasaki GPZ1100/ZX1100E (1995-1997)

question, I'm looking on ebay and I have found some wheels "but" what is the differance in the letters? C1-C2 or D1-D4 and so on? Sone of the ones that I have found don't say C1 or D4 ....etc

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2011, 04:46:17 am »
The letters indicate a change in the model, i.e., a ZX600C is different than a ZX600D in some way that Kawasaki thought was significant.  The numbers indicate the year of the model, i.e., C1 is the first year of the C model, C2 is the second year, etc.  The C10's are all A's, i.e., A1 thru 20.  Usually the year is good enough when you're buying parts, but some bikes, like the ZX600C and D apparently overlap around 1991, so it is better for that year if you know the letter designation.  Hopefully that makes sense.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2011, 12:03:50 pm »
Okay I got it, thanks. I just don't want to grab the wrong front wheel.

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2011, 02:10:03 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2011, 03:47:45 pm »
I found a few available on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/91-Kawasaki-ZX6-ZX-6-ZX600-ZX-600-D-Ninja-front-wheel-rim-/260884642726?hash=item3cbdefbba6&item=260884642726&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

HTH,

Thanks this was the one I was eyeing, too and he has the speed gear too.
Are you referring to the spacer between the bearing or the spacer on the outside?  To my understanding all the spacers on the outside are the same except for the Kawasaki ZR7/ ZR7S F2/ H1-H5 (2000-2005) which has a different p/n. Is this correct?

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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2011, 03:57:37 pm »
That's correct, the right side spacer is different for the ZR7 wheel.  If the bearings are still in the wheel, you will likely get the center spacer, then it's a matter of finding the right side spacer.  You can buy them new for not a lot of money.
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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2011, 04:09:47 pm »
wow...them guys are pretty proud of their wheels.   :o

Ron, I'll be watching your results closely!  I've already got the 17 rear and going to a 17 front would be nice.   :beerchug:

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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 04:11:03 pm »
That's correct, the right side spacer is different for the ZR7 wheel.  If the bearings are still in the wheel, you will likely get the center spacer, then it's a matter of finding the right side spacer.  You can buy them new for not a lot of money.

Ok so, if I get the wheel that I am eyeing, then the spacers(outside) will work correct?

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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 04:13:02 pm »
wow...them guys are pretty proud of their wheels.   :o

Ron, I'll be watching your results closely!  I've already got the 17 rear and going to a 17 front would be nice.   :beerchug:

Yeah!!! Ditto, some of those sellers are nuts.  Even for damaged wheel there what a arm and a leg.  I'll let you know how everything goes.

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2011, 05:44:01 pm »

Ok so, if I get the wheel that I am eyeing, then the spacers(outside) will work correct?

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I'm not sure I understand your question, but if you're asking if the Concours spacer will work, then the answer is no, the ZX600 spacer is a little longer than the Concours spacer.  You will still need to get the right side spacer (and the speedo drive) for the ZX600 (or GPZ1100) for the wheel to fit.  The Kawasaki part number for the spacer is 92143-1335, and is about $11 from Ron Ayers.  With the ZX600 spacers and speedo drive, the overall width of the spacers, wheel bearings, and speedo drive is the same as the Concours.

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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2011, 05:47:08 pm »
Ron, I'll be watching your results closely!  I've already got the 17 rear and going to a 17 front would be nice.   :beerchug:


Just in case you're not aware of it, here's what's required to install the 17" wheel as Ron is doing.  It's a matter of getting the right wheel, and it all fits with no modifications.

http://cog-online.org/clubportal/ClubStatic.cfm?clubID=1328&pubmenuoptID=35748
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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2011, 05:59:24 pm »
Thank you, Gary!!!

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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2011, 02:51:59 am »

Ok so, if I get the wheel that I am eyeing, then the spacers(outside) will work correct?

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I'm not sure I understand your question, but if you're asking if the Concours spacer will work, then the answer is no, the ZX600 spacer is a little longer than the Concours spacer.  You will still need to get the right side spacer (and the speedo drive) for the ZX600 (or GPZ1100) for the wheel to fit.  The Kawasaki part number for the spacer is 92143-1335, and is about $11 from Ron Ayers.  With the ZX600 spacers and speedo drive, the overall width of the spacers, wheel bearings, and speedo drive is the same as the Concours.

HTH,

Super I get it now,  ;D also thanks for posting the link. I brain farted.

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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2011, 03:12:42 am »
Cool.  If you have any more questions, let me know, otherwise, have fun!   :motonoises:
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 01:23:52 pm »
Cool.  If you have any more questions, let me know, otherwise, have fun!   :motonoises:


Thanks Gary I'll let you know if I have any other questions.  I just ordered the wheel,speed drive and spacer.  'll be ordering my tires next month, I might go with BT's, so far I'm undecided.

Sport Rider, I'll keep you in the loop too.  The main reason I'm going to 17" is availability. When I first needed to get tires for my Connie, I call every cycle shop within 50 miles of my house.  The only place that had them was a Kawasaki dealer, but they were the OEM tires, which I did'nt want.  All other places had to order them (AVON). I ended up getting them from http://www.compacc.com/index.cfm faster and cheaper than all the places I looked at .  So I thought since I ride a lot (everyday) and in the mountains it would really suck to have a cruise cut short waiting for tires. Soooo hence the reason for the 17" upgrade.  Every time I go into a cycle shop they all had 17" tires and at least 3-4 different makes.

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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2011, 02:22:22 pm »
Thanks Ron.  For me it's because I have a sportbike that runs 17s.  I have several tires from it that I used on the track.  Since they still have good tread for street use, I can run them on the connie, which I use as my every-day ride.

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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2011, 03:50:06 pm »

Thanks Gary I'll let you know if I have any other questions.  I just ordered the wheel,speed drive and spacer.  'll be ordering my tires next month, I might go with BT's, so far I'm undecided.


Great, sounds like you're all set.  One thing I'm not aware of anyone doing yet is to mount a different fender with the 17" wheel.  The C10 fender leaves a lot of room between it and the tire, and looks a little funny.  I think a ZR7 or ZX600 fender might fit, but so far I don't think anyone has tried it.
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2011, 01:20:39 pm »
Great, sounds like you're all set.  One thing I'm not aware of anyone doing yet is to mount a different fender with the 17" wheel.  The C10 fender leaves a lot of room between it and the tire, and looks a little funny.  I think a ZR7 or ZX600 fender might fit, but so far I don't think anyone has tried it.

Thanks for that info, I'm going to shoot the seller of the wheel I got and ask him to check. I'll keep you posted.

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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2011, 07:43:28 pm »
Well so far I got everything, sans the wheel.  I have a set of bearings and seals from my OEM wheel set up,(I believe that there the same size) If so I'll put them in, and I'll need to strip and paint the wheel too. I want it purty.  Next month I'll be doing the swap after I get my new tires.


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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2011, 07:57:33 pm »
Yes, the bearings and seals are the same, so you should be good to go.  As for painting, I used Duplicolor wheel paint, and am very pleased so far.
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2011, 05:05:12 am »
Yes, the bearings and seals are the same, so you should be good to go.  As for painting, I used Duplicolor wheel paint, and am very pleased so far.

Thanks for that info, I really want to paint my bike Fred. But dang !!! I don't get down time on her. In the last 18 months I've put 30,000 miles on her. I do preventive maint, and roll..... she never skips a beat.  I'm praying for some serious snow and ice to get her off the road. LOL

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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2011, 02:53:22 pm »
Yes, the bearings and seals are the same, so you should be good to go.  As for painting, I used Duplicolor wheel paint, and am very pleased so far.

Thanks for that info, I really want to paint my bike Fred. But dang !!! I don't get down time on her. In the last 18 months I've put 30,000 miles on her. I do preventive maint, and roll..... she never skips a beat.  I'm praying for some serious snow and ice to get her off the road. LOL

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Hold on there a minute.....let's not get carried away!!!   ???

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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2011, 03:17:06 pm »
Hold on there a minute.....let's not get carried away!!!   ???

LOL, I hear you my friend ....just enough to keep me off the road for 5 days, which here in NC, is about 1/32 of a inch to paralyze this state.

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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2011, 03:40:32 pm »
lived near Charlotte for 12 years now.  I know of what you speak!   :))

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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2011, 08:12:52 pm »
I am about to join the group. 17" Front wheel is on its way!

Now I have to find a 17" rear!

Is Kosman and or a mean-streak rear the only options???? anyone? 
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