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Offline SAS Mayhem

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2011, 11:25:56 pm »
Hope my posts don't offend you.  just some good-natured ribbing.  :)
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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2011, 04:20:20 pm »
Lowering the fender will decrease the separation, but it will not eliminate the difference in radius issue. The front and rear of the fender will still stick out a fair amount from the tire.

I'm looking into the ZR7 fender option as the forks have the same first serial number series as the Connie. Then there is the paint issue...
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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2011, 01:21:48 am »
Lowering the fender will decrease the separation, but it will not eliminate the difference in radius issue. The front and rear of the fender will still stick out a fair amount from the tire.

I'm looking into the ZR7 fender option as the forks have the same first serial number series as the Connie. Then there is the paint issue...

Look around and you should be able to find someone who knows how to paint plastic auto and motorcycle parts. I found a kid who worked at a local body shop who specialized in this type of painting. My fender was Kawasaki green (didn't go too well with Candy Cardinal Red) and he matched the color perfectly and it looks like it came from the factory that way. Cost me $50.00, I was glad to pay it.

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2011, 05:58:38 pm »
Found a machine shop to modify my new to me, Mean Streak rear wheel and rotor for 2.5 hrs shop time at $55.00 per.  Once this is done I'll replace the bearings and seals. Ordered the ZX6 speedo and as soon as I have both wheels ready I am thinking about power coating them both in either the orignal gray or black leaving the leading edge of the rim the raw brushed alumimum look.  The ZX6 is a darker gray than the Connies wheels and the mean streak is the brushed bright aluminum.  I currently have lots of rubber left on my Connie front so I will not be replacing it until necessary, (spring) More to follow when it happens.  :)
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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2011, 09:10:15 pm »
Well my tires should be here tomorrow, and I have the Ninja front fender. Just by eye balling it, it looks like it will work.  I just finished paint the 17" wheel too. So by this weekend I hope to be done with the front wheel set up.

hows it going at your end  Sport Rider?

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2011, 11:01:19 pm »
Well my tires should be here tomorrow, and I have the Ninja front fender. Just by eye balling it, it looks like it will work.  I just finished paint the 17" wheel too. So by this weekend I hope to be done with the front wheel set up.

hows it going at your end  Sport Rider?

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2011, 12:41:49 am »
Well my tires should be here tomorrow, and I have the Ninja front fender. Just by eye balling it, it looks like it will work.  I just finished paint the 17" wheel too. So by this weekend I hope to be done with the front wheel set up.

hows it going at your end  Sport Rider?

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How did you paint your wheels?  Rattle can? or something different? Product? Thx

I went with Dupli color Silver and clear coat. I've always had good results with Dupli color. For durability.

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #57 on: December 22, 2011, 06:50:44 am »
 2linby, here goes a before and after shot of my 17 inch wheels. I de-greased  it and wet sanded the wheel with 600 grit and de-greased it again. And shot several light coats of Dupli-color Wheel paint silver followed by the several coats of there wheel gloss clear coat

Before


After


I installed the Ninja front fender too, it bolts right up...kinda.  The mounting holes are just a tad off. You can either bolt up the front two bolts or the rear two bolts, with no issue. the other two bolt holes are just off by maybe a 1/16th of an inch. So a quick tap with the dremel is all you need to get the other two bolts in.
I'll post a pic of the fender installed once photobucket is done with there site maintenance.  ???

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2011, 06:52:44 am »
Wow, Ron - that looks GREAT!

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« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2011, 07:31:41 am »
Thanks ChipDoc, here are the pictures of the Ninja fender. I painted it with a Dupli color rattle can, from Auto Zone. The Dark Blue Pearl (8P4) is real close to the 06 color.

The on the left is our Connies and the right a 91 Ninja


Now is was very surprised how good the Ninja front fender look with a OEM front wheel (18inch)and tire combo seen here. The gap is close but plenty of room.


and one more close up.


FYI the fender extender that some of us have will not work with the Ninja fender, without major surgery.
FYI II- That tire is a Ultra Storm 2 with 16,000+ miles in it.

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2011, 12:29:26 pm »
Looks great Ron, but you're gonna have to give that poor baby a bath so it'll match the front fender!  :)

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« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2011, 01:05:50 pm »
Looks great Ron, but you're gonna have to give that poor baby a bath so it'll match the front fender!  :)

LOL, yeah I kinda see that now !!!  :P

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #62 on: December 22, 2011, 03:33:44 pm »
plus I'm kinda pissed at you, cause now I gotta go spend money to do the upgrade too!   ;) ;) ;)

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #63 on: December 22, 2011, 05:58:21 pm »
Ron,

Thanks for posting the pictures. I am still waiting on my rear from the machine shop.  If the local powder coater is too expensive its Dupli-color for me too!
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« Reply #64 on: December 22, 2011, 07:33:07 pm »
Ron,

Thanks for posting the pictures. I am still waiting on my rear from the machine shop.  If the local powder coater is too expensive its Dupli-color for me too!

No problem 2linby here is the finished product with notes.

This is the clearance with my new rubber Shinko Raven 120/70-17 and the Ninja front fender. Pretty much a straight install with the correct part from the list mentioned at the beginning of this post. I cant believe how close the Dupli color is either  :)


Here is another shot so you can see the complete job.


OK now for the rear, not so much an issue just be prepared. With the mean streak rear wheel and the Bridgestone 020 170/60-17 tire I had no issue installng and removing this comb. But the Shinko Raven 170/60-17 was another story, it was wider and the only way I was able just to get in I had to remove the hub assembly (4bolts) to get room the get the tire up, and that even with a bobbed tail that I have. Not a big issue it only added 2 minutes to the install, just be prepared.  And one final note is the center stand , hits this combo too. I just took my dermel in grind off  less that 1/2 inch of the right inside radius to clear the tire


And here is the final product. I did a quick 50m mile ride just to see how it felt. I was very surprised that I felt the height change as soon as I got on the bike, more comfortable for me being a tad lower. As far as riding the bike "seemed" to steer quicker. I'm not sold yet on that tho... I had to take it easy with the new shoes. But I felt that the steering input was quicker, I went on a on ramp at about 45-50, and I leaned like I always do and she "seemed" to move right faster that  expected. I was heading to the white line quick... but I need to ride more to see after the tires get worked in.


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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2011, 07:42:26 pm »
Looks great Ron!  thanks for posting the info so we could follow along!

...and glad the girl got a bath!  ;)

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #66 on: December 22, 2011, 07:45:29 pm »
No problem 2linby here is the finished product with notes.

This is the clearance with my new rubber Shinko Raven 120/70-17 and the Ninja front fender. Pretty much a straight install with the correct part from the list mentioned at the beginning of this post. I cant believe how close the Dupli color is either  :)

To summarize the parts, as I am too lazy to reread all this again, That is the new front wheel itself, the proper axle spacer, speedometer gear, and the Ninja Front Fender. Wheel bearings if needed.

I guess I forgot how come the Ninja Front fender ?
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« Reply #67 on: December 22, 2011, 07:52:05 pm »

....I guess I forgot how come the Ninja Front fender ?

Just cause the fender fits the 17 inch wheel better than the OEM for the 18 incher.

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #68 on: December 22, 2011, 07:58:04 pm »
Yeap!!! Strictly visual appeal, Slybones. The Ninja fender closes the gap between the tire and fender better that the stock did.

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« Reply #69 on: December 22, 2011, 07:59:21 pm »
Looks great Ron!  thanks for posting the info so we could follow along!

...and glad the girl got a bath!  ;)

I gave her a quick rub down just for you !!!!  :nananana:

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« Reply #70 on: December 22, 2011, 09:27:06 pm »
Yes, Sandy isn't running the shop anymore.  the new guy is having some growing pains.  Looks like he is an ok guy, just fighting some management bugs.  I suspect it'll be squared away soon.
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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #71 on: December 22, 2011, 09:27:49 pm »
Ron, it looks great, glad the ZX fender worked out. 

As for the clearance issue with the centerstand, it's interesting that I used the same model and size of tire with my Mean Streak wheel, and didn't have an issue with clearance with the stock stand.  When I shortened the stop pad on the CS to get more ground clearance, the right side was very close.  I have heard of others having an issue on the left side, so this supports my feeling that there is enough of a variance in centerstands that some will interfere while others won't.  You're right, it isn't a big deal, and my solution was the same as yours, a quick grinding away of the foot pad to gain the necessary clearance.
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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #72 on: December 22, 2011, 11:46:03 pm »
Ron, it looks great, glad the ZX fender worked out. 

When I shortened the stop pad on the CS to get more ground clearance...


Hummm !!!!. I have a bumper pad on my CS, but I noticed that it is NOT in contact with anything, nothing is even close. But there is a vacant hole/bracket in my left muffler in the area. I went and took a look at Ronayers http://www.ronayers.com/Fiche/TypeID/26/Type/Muffler(s)_/MakeID/3/Make/Kawasaki/YearID/47/Year/2006/ModelID/3245/Model/Concours/GroupID/331158/Group/Muffler(s)_ fiche and pn# 92075-92075-1002 DAMPER RUBBER, in MIA ??? is THAT the pad that the one on the CS is supposed to contact?

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Re: Educate me please......
« Reply #73 on: December 23, 2011, 01:06:44 am »
That's the one!  My guess is if you had the pad in place, there would be quite a bit more clearance.   ;)  As it is, you have more ground clearance.   :motonoises:
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« Reply #74 on: December 23, 2011, 01:11:09 am »
That's the one!  My guess is if you had the pad in place, there would be quite a bit more clearance.   ;)  As it is, you have more ground clearance.   :motonoises:

Okay thanks GF-in-CA..  :beerchug:

and one more side note about the Mean Streak wheel, is that the Meanstreak wheel uses a smaller diameter stem than the C10, I was just reminded of that.

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