Author Topic: Inexpensive Fork Emulators?  (Read 2403 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline bajasam

  • Scooter
  • ***
  • Posts: 298
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: Forum
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Inexpensive Fork Emulators?
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2019, 12:17:16 pm »
Now I have to find a c14 shock and try to bring the back end up to the same performance level the front is at..........it never ends does it.

Offline connie_rider

  • "OtP" {retired/assistant} Slave Labor
  • GOLD STAR
  • *******
  • Posts: 10068
  • Help us make "OtP" possible! "AGAIN"
  • AREA: South Central Area
  • COG#: 4154
  • Membership Level: Asst. Area Director
Re: Inexpensive Fork Emulators?
« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2019, 01:10:09 pm »
No, it never stops.
"Luckily", I love to tinker and learn.
 and MOB enjoys correcting me when I err.

I have a C-14 shock on mine and had to add a lowering link to get the rear down to the stock height.

I think a ZZR shock {shorter} does the same without the need of a lowering link and has the same adjustments.
May actually work better as the longer C-14 shock and lowering link change the geometry)
   {But the spring may be softer}

Ride safe, Ted
14 Connie (Traveler II) / 03 Connie (Buddy)
Gone but not forgotten; 87 and 00 Connies..

If your not already a COGger, "consider becoming one".
Help us make "OtP" possible again!!

Offline Bud

  • Crotch Rocket
  • ****
  • Posts: 1941
  • AREA: North Central Area
  • COG#: 12907
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Inexpensive Fork Emulators?
« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2019, 02:07:29 pm »
Now I have to find a c14 shock and try to bring the back end up to the same performance level the front is at..........it never ends does it.
Nope.  One thing leads to another.
2005 Kawasaki Concours
2001 Kawasaki Concours
1982 Suzuki GS1100GK
1983 Honda GL650I SilverWing

Offline connie_rider

  • "OtP" {retired/assistant} Slave Labor
  • GOLD STAR
  • *******
  • Posts: 10068
  • Help us make "OtP" possible! "AGAIN"
  • AREA: South Central Area
  • COG#: 4154
  • Membership Level: Asst. Area Director
Re: Inexpensive Fork Emulators?
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2019, 12:17:38 pm »
If anyone wants to inexpensively add emulators to your C-10, here is a neat/inexpensive trick.
Read thru the post above..

Ride safe, Ted
14 Connie (Traveler II) / 03 Connie (Buddy)
Gone but not forgotten; 87 and 00 Connies..

If your not already a COGger, "consider becoming one".
Help us make "OtP" possible again!!

Offline bajasam

  • Scooter
  • ***
  • Posts: 298
  • AREA: Southwest Area
  • COG#: Forum
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Inexpensive Fork Emulators?
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2019, 12:47:54 am »
Loved those cheap emulators so much I'm on the hunt for some 36mm's for the little Super Sherpa.

Offline Wantabeach

  • Bicycle
  • *
  • Posts: 97
  • AREA: South Central Area
  • COG#: Forum
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Inexpensive Fork Emulators?
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2019, 01:28:03 am »
I want to do this mod and need a little advise. I weight 225, currently have Sonic 1.1 springs, 10 weight oil and original dampening rods. When I take trips I usually carry an additional 40-50 pounds.  The ride is firm and confident but could definitely be improved (brake dive, cornering on rough roads and overall feel).

How much do you weight or how much total weight including baggage, etc are you setup for? 

I still have my OEM springs and they are in great shape and measured the full length per the manual.  Since the originals are progressive, would I get a better ride by cutting and using them?  Would they be as strong as my Sonics?  How much should I cut to get something close to the Sonic 1.1 rating? 

Would you suggest any changes to these settings?
Sonic 1.1 or cut OEM originals springs?
6 holes (5/16) in dampener rod
4 holes in emulators a little smaller than the original
10 or 20 weight oil ? (can’t find 15 weight fork oil).
2 or 3 turns of the valve?
Oil level?

Thanks
Paul
2006 Kawasaki Concours
2006 Harley Heritage (sold)

Offline Mcfly

  • Stayin' for the people....
  • Iron Butt
  • *****
  • Posts: 3997
  • What've I done!?
  • AREA: Southeast Area
  • COG#: 9921
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Inexpensive Fork Emulators?
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2019, 02:27:29 am »
I want to do this mod and need a little advise. I weight 225, currently have Sonic 1.1 springs, 10 weight oil and original dampening rods. When I take trips I usually carry an additional 40-50 pounds.  The ride is firm and confident but could definitely be improved (brake dive, cornering on rough roads and overall feel).

How much do you weight or how much total weight including baggage, etc are you setup for? 

I still have my OEM springs and they are in great shape and measured the full length per the manual.  Since the originals are progressive, would I get a better ride by cutting and using them?  Would they be as strong as my Sonics?  How much should I cut to get something close to the Sonic 1.1 rating? 

Would you suggest any changes to these settings?
Sonic 1.1 or cut OEM originals springs?
6 holes (5/16) in dampener rod
4 holes in emulators a little smaller than the original
10 or 20 weight oil ? (can’t find 15 weight fork oil).
2 or 3 turns of the valve?
Oil level?

Thanks
Paul

Oil level:  Dependant on the springs you choose.
Turns of the valve:  Start with two.  It was right for me.... it's a personal thing.
No 15 weight?  Go 20 weight.  A little more viscosity will only help.
4 holes in emulators, 6 holes (total) in damping rods... 
Sonic 1.2s recommended by weight.... I used 1.1s and got good results (220 lbs) though.
I preferred the straight rate springs over the OEM.  No experience with cut OEMs.

My front end had Original Gold valve emulators... which had two sets of springs.
Not sure if the set mentioned has two sets... 
Hope someone will chime in on that.

Good luck!  (Of course... YMMV)
2016 BMW S1000XR Premium in Alpine White aka 'Spooky'

SOLD: 2006 Concours aka "Connie"

FL/SE Assistant Area Director

Offline connie_rider

  • "OtP" {retired/assistant} Slave Labor
  • GOLD STAR
  • *******
  • Posts: 10068
  • Help us make "OtP" possible! "AGAIN"
  • AREA: South Central Area
  • COG#: 4154
  • Membership Level: Asst. Area Director
Re: Inexpensive Fork Emulators?
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2019, 09:44:59 pm »
Instead of buying aftermarket, I opted to use the OEM springs {4" removed from tightly wound section of the springs, and a spacer installed}.  {I'm Frugal}

I posted this recently.
http://forum.cog-online.org/tiressuspension-c10/fork-oil-replacement-level/msg680511/#msg680511

Read the attachment's at the bottom of the discussion for more information on the Emulator and how they work.

Ride safe, Ted
14 Connie (Traveler II) / 03 Connie (Buddy)
Gone but not forgotten; 87 and 00 Connies..

If your not already a COGger, "consider becoming one".
Help us make "OtP" possible again!!