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Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« on: February 27, 2015, 10:31:38 pm »
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Treated myself to new tires for my 2005 C-10 for my birthday.  (Because I totally needed them.)

Replaced Shinko rear purchased in May 2013 with 8,424 miles on it.  Wearing out, not totally shot.
Front: 8,107 miles on Michelin Pilot 2 purchased May 2013.

Wanted a matched set, so I sacrificed some miles on tires to get a set of Avon 3D XM radials.
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Purchased the tires and had them installed at Northeast Georgia Motorsports, near Braselton, GA.  Brandon Reed made me a decent deal and they're pretty close to my house.

Added metal 90-degree stems.  Went for the 110/80-18 front and the 150/80-16 rear.

Jeff the Tekkie installed them for me and said the spline on the rear axle was dry.  He kindly greased it (and scolded me).

Total price: enough under $500 to get a tank of gas and a taco.
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One added bonus.  Downloaded an app for my Galaxy S5 to check my speedometer with the new (110/80) tires.
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Perfect at 30, 40, 50 & 60 mph.  Might be worse at 120, but I'll never check it by holding my cell phone.

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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2015, 10:42:32 pm »
I went with the matched set of Pirelli sport demons all around $500 with install. They work really well dry and in the rain, I only like matched tires and am interested to see witch ones last longer. Good deal, but the kicker is my bike really came alive with cornering confidance.
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2015, 01:18:29 am »
Thanks for the tip! My rear Avon Azaro is showing some wear quickly and I need to replace before the spring / summer season!  :beerchug:

I'll probably add the 90 degree stems too, but can that be mounted or added later? Sorry for the dumb question as I was struggling at the gas station trying to fill the rear with that damn vertical valve and couldn't quite make it. Luckily I didn't lose too much air and when I got home, just filled it with a regular bike pump.   ::)
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2015, 04:10:30 pm »
It is best to add them with the tire off as they will charge you just as much as replacing the tire. I just got a tire pressure gauge that is digital and made for motorcycles and carry it in the top pocket of fairing. No questions are dumb on this forum unless I am asking them LOL. I ride here in Forest Grove.where are you at? nice day to ride!
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2015, 03:24:50 am »
That makes sense, I guess I should've looked at the product too at other sites. Can't wait for the rear tire to come in and get this mounted. Definitely the weather here in NW is nice!! :)  I'm in the Seattle area, Issaquah to be exact. I have an aunt & uncle in the Forest Grove area. I might have to schedule a ride down there some weekend. I wanted to ride more today but didn't want to risk a blowout by adding miles to the rear Avon.

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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2015, 01:07:05 pm »
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2015, 04:18:08 pm »
Let me know I usually ride on nice Sundays as We own a bookstore and I also work for myself hit me up with a pm and Ill give you my #.
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2015, 06:41:54 pm »
Rode gently the first 50 miles on the new tires.  After 75 or so, I rode in traffic on I-85 until well past 100 miles.
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Went from 120/70 fronts to 110/80s.  Surprised by the additional turbulence & wobbling passing trucks on the interstate.
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Never been an issue before.  A bit unpleasant now.
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The upside is the bike carves into curves more consistently.
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Glad I made the switch to the matched set of Avons.
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2015, 06:38:05 pm »
 The feeling on the interstate is what I call "ball bearing dance" like the tires are on ball bearings. that has nothing to do with being the 110 front tire, and everything to do with being avons. I hoped they would have gotten that out of the rear tire, but apparently not.  ???  Steve
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2015, 06:42:39 pm »
In the market for tires currently looking.  Have always used Dunlop 700's since 08.  Was looking at the Avon's.  What other stock size tires do you recommend Obi Steve Kanobi?
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2015, 08:27:14 pm »
Thursday night I ordered tires from Canadas Motorcycle.
They arrived noon Monday.
The payment has not even cleared my Paypal account yet !!!
Stock sized Michelins, PR3 front and Commander2 rear.
Date codes for both are Aug 2014.
I'm so excited...!!!

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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2015, 03:26:57 pm »
The feeling on the interstate is what I call "ball bearing dance" like the tires are on ball bearings. that has nothing to do with being the 110 front tire, and everything to do with being avons. I hoped they would have gotten that out of the rear tire, but apparently not.  ???  Steve

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Not sure of the cause of the bike getting blown around more by trucks on freeways, but it happens all the time.  Like a different bike, at times.  I guess ball bearing dance is as good as any description.  Not to the point of feeling out of control ... just more reason to pass trucks quickly.

Otherwise, the tires stick perfectly for me and I'm glad I bought them.

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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2015, 04:06:27 pm »
I purchased a set of Pirelli Sport Demons from Motorcycle Superstore today for $213 for both tires!!!  :))  Actually $212.?? to be exact, but forgot what the change was after using the discount.  Tire price listed, when you use the code on main page takes extra 5% off at checkout, free shipping.  Sending them to Matt's house, we are going to mount and balance them Sunday, yeah!!!
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2015, 09:06:25 pm »
WTG Dan, I am sure you will be thrilled. That is an awesome price, much better than what I paid. Good riding to yah! Steve
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2015, 11:48:51 pm »
@ Robertv.  I had the 90's installed on my 06.  Found the front to be a problem clearing the rotors when checking pressure, so it removed at next install.  Still  have the rear 90 and love it.  HTH JMHO.  Good luck with the new tires.
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2015, 01:45:46 pm »
Thanks Dan! Have the 90deg valve stem on the rear and wow what a nice convenience! Front Avon tire still looking good on tread and miles, but when I need to replace it, I'll check to see if the 90 will clear the rotor.  Do you have stock rotors and brakes?

Also the new rear Avon XM Storm tire is great! Going to try it later today now that the Seattle area got some rain.
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2015, 02:03:21 pm »
Yes, stock rotors.  It was very hard to get most air hoses onto the stem, because of the close clearance to the rotors.
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2015, 02:37:00 am »
Here's the new rear Avon with the 90 degree valve stem.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1X4VyUsdniiYWdWeFJ3cjlkdjg/view

Going to match with the front in a few months or mileage, which ever comes first. So far did a few rides both on dry and wet pavement. Me likes! Thanks all for pointing out a great set of tires!  :great:
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2015, 07:39:11 am »
Thursday night I ordered tires from Canadas Motorcycle.
They arrived noon Monday.
The payment has not even cleared my Paypal account yet !!!
Stock sized Michelins, PR3 front and Commander2 rear.
Date codes for both are Aug 2014.
I'm so excited...!!!

Be very, very careful on wet corners with that Commander 2. It will slide out WAY too easy with not much power. I pulled mine early and actually got a refund from Michelin. It was that bad. It works well on dry roads, though.
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2015, 12:25:22 am »
oh, oh ... thanks for the warning. What did you replace it with ?

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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2015, 03:07:05 pm »
The feeling on the interstate is what I call "ball bearing dance" like the tires are on ball bearings. that has nothing to do with being the 110 front tire, and everything to do with being avons. I hoped they would have gotten that out of the rear tire, but apparently not.  ???  Steve
Steve, I loved the Avon 3D XM tire below 45 but thought I would die above 45. Slow speed traction and handling were fantastic. I tried adjusting everything to no avail. After two sets of the same Avon 3D XM stock size tire I put my old worn out tires back on and it handles perfect again. Yes there is a problem but I don't know if it's front or rear. I just know the "ball bearing dance" is dangerous.

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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2015, 05:13:48 pm »
Hmm, I don't know if I've experienced this ball bearing handling over 45. What I have on the front is an earlier Storm model, stock size 120/70R18 matched with the new Avon 3D XM 150/80R16, both at 40psi. Front has a fork brace and the rear is using stock suspension, set at 30psi / 3 on air adjustment, all with empty side cases.

Granted roads here in the NW are a bit different in terms of what's composed of when its dry or wet, but going to pay attention to the handling this coming week.
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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2015, 10:26:02 pm »
Wonderful 170 mile ride in the GA mtns today on my 05 C-10.
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Had a dealer install the Avon 3D XM tires 500 miles ago.  Here's my opinion.

I've ridden four bikes in the mtns here over the past 25 years.  In my experience, putting new tires on is always like riding a different bike.  It always takes time to adjust.  Especially if you buy them at Rider's Hill and head north up Rt 60 in the summer.
 :-\
The new 3D XM tires allow me to go as fast as I want to.  They're predictable in corners and grip on uphill/downhill spots in the mtns where you can pass.  The ride, generally, is flawless and I have confidence in the tires.  (God, actually, but you know what I mean.)

On interstates, they're fine.  Except when trailer trucks are around.  That's just another story.  I have never been buffeted in the dirty air behind trucks as I have been with these tires.  I have ridden this bike 17k miles on the same roads in the same conditions.  It's the tires.  So, I scoot around trucks or back off.  I'd never spend much time in a truck's draft again.
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Passing Road Hawgs on 180?  Not a problem.  Gliding through twisties?  Not a problem.  Riding one up in heavy truck traffic?  That's a problem.

Hope that helps.


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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2015, 11:00:07 pm »
Hi Robert. It WAS a great here today in Georgia. I just got back myself.

Your opinion of those tires and roads is exactly the same as mine when I had the Avon combo (Azaro and whatever the front was at the time) that preceded yours. I too have put 15-20,000 miles under the bike in the same places with the same results.

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Re: Purchased set of Avon 3D XM Tires
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2015, 03:24:09 pm »
RJ...I think it's doubtful the tires are strongly related to the buffeting in dirty air...I think it's more the windshield...my '88 (when I had it) and my current '03 had the same tendencies...until I installed a Madstad shield on each bike...  Both times the result was the same afterwards...no more buffeting...my results were consistent...we went for a ride yesterday (upper 70s along the Front Range in Colorado) and, my wife AGAIN mentioned how the Madstad REALLY makes a difference!

It's not the cheapest option out there...but, I think it's the best!