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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #600 on: August 01, 2019, 06:44:00 pm »
Connie needs new shoes so I read through this thread (a herculean effort) and decided on a Shinko 777 for the rear.  Someone pages back recommended a Bridgestone BT-023 110-80/18 for the front.  But I can't find that anywhere online from a US source.

Others are recommending a Shinko Verge for the front but it seems to be only available in 120-70-18.

I can get a Bridgestone BT 45 in 110-80-18.

The Verge is a radial, the BT 45 is bias.

The Shinko rear is a bias.

So my considerations are 120-70-18 vs 110-80-18, and matching radial front with bias rear vs bias front and rear.

I'm looking for the best combination of handling, grip (wet and dry), and economy.

Anybody have any thoughts on this?

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #601 on: August 01, 2019, 11:14:48 pm »
Avon AM-26's.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #602 on: August 01, 2019, 11:48:40 pm »
The BT-023 was  great tire. It had been replaced by the T-30 which is now the T31.
Still a great tire in my opinion.
Good handling, feedback,and longevity at a low price point.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #603 on: August 04, 2019, 12:25:55 pm »
I have Bridgestone Exedra Max 120/70ZR18 on the front, so that size will fit. The 110-80-18 is perhaps easier to install onto the rim and maybe has better fuel economy (but that size is not always available as you are finding out).
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #604 on: August 04, 2019, 09:49:32 pm »
I would have no issue myself, if I desired a "single purchase point/common tire mfg" combo of these..

http://tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Bridgestone/Bridgestone%20MC/bridgestone_battlax_bt023.htm

http://tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Bridgestone/Bridgestone%20MC/exedra_max.htm

I don't particularly care for B'Stones, as I am riding a C14... but always loved Michelin's and Avons, on my C10's.

in my mind, the best C10 tires were the older Michelin Macadam's.. un believable tires... no longer made in "our sizes".
these are off shoots of that design.
Rear
http://tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Michelin/Michelin%20Commander%20II.htm
front
http://tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Michelin/Michelin_Pilot_Activ.htm
 and both suitable for older Connies, prior to the front end changes..

and I still don't rule these out, for general usage...
http://tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/AVON/AVON%20MC/avon_venom.htm

finding a GREAT aggressive tire for my '78 KZ1000LtdB2, is still killing me... I have some Dunflop 491's, that I try to burn off... but they have about as much wet traction as 2 bricks being slid against each other... wet bricks at that...

still a lot of tire available for the C10, just forget about the radial aspect, and buy a good tire, (ie.e. a bias ply if desired... hell, people put stupid "car tire" on this bike, and don't even think about the rating...all they care about is how many miles they get..) with an acceptable speed rating, based on your riding... You will never see 150MPH on the bike, so buy tires rated for riding... as they are rated like 2x higher just on general saftey principal... i.e., you can go 200mph on an H rated tire, and it won't blow out... ya don't need Z rated tires.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #605 on: August 05, 2019, 02:02:07 pm »
I am running the Michelin Commander II rear and Pilot Activ front combination. I just got back from a 3700mi ride to the Black Hills and back through central Wyoming. The tires now have 5k miles on them and they could do the trip again. We did I-90 to Deadwood and mostly backroads the rest of the trip. These tires work great and I would buy them again but I have collected everything to change over to 17" wheels. I am going to put a set on my 84' Sabre 700 real soon though.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #606 on: August 05, 2019, 02:46:53 pm »
I prefer radials as I feel they turn in more quickly, with less effort.
Soooo, just to be different;   >:D
    {instead of a 120/70R-18} I installed a 110/80R-18 Metzler Roadtec Z8 Interact on the front of my C-10.. {$115.85}
https://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/motorcycle-tires/metzeler-roadtec-z8-interact-motorcycle-tire/p/30568

     {instead of a 150/80R-16} I installed a 180/60R-16 {Shinko Journey} on the rear of my C-10. {$131.85}
             Yes, it took some effort, but it fits fine...
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/shinko-se890-journey-touring-radial-tires

So far I like the combination, but the resultant tire profile's make the bike go into a turn "very" quickly! <evil grin>
If ya like playing in the twisties on yer C-10, "thinkaboutit"...   :motonoises:

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #607 on: August 07, 2019, 05:32:46 pm »
Ahh, as much as I hate change, I'm disappointed to see things haven't changed on this forum.  The previous comment, "hell, people put stupid "car tire" on this bike, and don't even think about the rating...all they care about is how many miles they get" was the final reminder why I haven't frequented this site in the last year and a half.

If I remember correctly, a couple of years ago, someone was unselfish enough to provide detailed info for anyone interested in going to the "dark side" with a car/taxi tire.  And, they provided this info without any derogatory remarks for those who didn't agree with this approach.  I'm sure the folks who put a lot of miles on their motorcycles surely appreciated the input whether they followed this path or not.

It's a shame some folks can't respect everyone's right to explore new things and/or just have fun when it doesn't impact them personally.  Sure, voice your opinion, dialog is good, but keep it respectful of other peoples feeling.  For me, I'm out of here.  I'm older now and I'm only going to live once, so I sure don't need these negative vibes.  I'm certainly going to miss communicating with the rank and file, but I've had enough of the elite few who spoil the fun.

Ride safe and have fun.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #608 on: August 07, 2019, 07:39:49 pm »
While it's always nice to be sensitive to other persons feelings, it would be extremely hard for me to keep a straight face and proclaim that it's a wonderful idea to take a performance motorcycle capable of 130mph and put a square tread antique car tire on it.I'm sure if a shop did this for someone they could probably get sued for malpractice. This is kinda like a toss-up between humorous and insensitive.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #609 on: August 07, 2019, 08:13:05 pm »
I'm certainly going to miss communicating with the rank and file, but I've had enough of the elite few who spoil the fun.

Jim, don't cut yourself out of the fun.
If you don't like a discussion, simply go to another that is enjoyable to you.

Ride safe, Ted
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #610 on: August 08, 2019, 12:18:29 am »
I just got an e-mail, from some person that doe not know me, saying pretty much"thank you for all the good advice you have given..."
 and told me to disregard the insults..

phehhh.. I don't find it an insult someone gleaned a "personal opinion/quip" I made, out of context, and turned it into a silly "crying session".. frankly, I stand behind my findings about car tires on Concours bikes.. I HAVE ridden 2 of them with the Taxi tires, and found the handling, re-activity, and safe feeling, a reason WHY i joke about it.. if someone wants to pop up, and dis me over what I said, well... if you ain't done it/ experienced it/paid for it.. you have zero to say. I personally can't tell someone to do it.. even those that have "done it" will admit... "it takes time to get used to the handling".. That in itself, should speak volumes.

Now, while the person eamed to go back in time, and find the "recommendation", they clearly didn't read the input that was given be me then, as Tech Editor, nor did they read the same thing the following tech editor Fred Harmon wrote.. non of us would ever "suggest" this swap to anyone.. if you want to stick some odd stuff on your bike, have at it.. tell us how it works out. But never say "hey everyone.. do this....."


sorry for the rant, i was only speaking from actual personal experience, and the outcome.


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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #611 on: August 08, 2019, 02:35:30 pm »
Ahh, as much as I hate change, I'm disappointed to see things haven't changed on this forum.  The previous comment, "hell, people put stupid "car tire" on this bike, and don't even think about the rating...all they care about is how many miles they get" was the final reminder why I haven't frequented this site in the last year and a half.

If I remember correctly, a couple of years ago, someone was unselfish enough to provide detailed info for anyone interested in going to the "dark side" with a car/taxi tire.  And, they provided this info without any derogatory remarks for those who didn't agree with this approach.  I'm sure the folks who put a lot of miles on their motorcycles surely appreciated the input whether they followed this path or not.

It's a shame some folks can't respect everyone's right to explore new things and/or just have fun when it doesn't impact them personally.  Sure, voice your opinion, dialog is good, but keep it respectful of other peoples feeling.  For me, I'm out of here.  I'm older now and I'm only going to live once, so I sure don't need these negative vibes.  I'm certainly going to miss communicating with the rank and file, but I've had enough of the elite few who spoil the fun.

Ride safe and have fun.
exactly why i wont be a paid member, as long as this behavior is tolerated, i wont support it either. It does NOT fly on my discussion board , at all. (yes, i own a 2 stroke forum) with a LOT of legacy. I see a LOT of nontraditional stuff done, but nobody gets flogged for it. if they do, ban-hammer time, regardless of how technically adept they are. Interestingly, all the people that have been in the business for 40+ years and such, (land speed holders, manufacturers, pro engine and race bike builders) don't leave and they, as true professionals, don't act that way either.  That's actually WHY  they stay in that community.  .02.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #612 on: August 08, 2019, 05:14:03 pm »
I haven’t heard this much whining since daycare.

Let it go.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #613 on: August 08, 2019, 05:43:35 pm »
For what it's worth, (at the recent COG National) the Michelin Motorcycle Tire Representative gave us his input about car tires on a motorcycle.
He said: DO NOT DO IT because {if the fail} they fail catastrophically in a manner {side wall blow out} that almost always causes a crash..

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PS: After his discussion, I asked the Michelin Guy about the installation of the wider {180/60} tire on my C-10's narrow rim. {see post 606}
      He said; (Officially) he couldn't recommend it as the (180/60) tire is too wide for the rim.
                   (Unofficially) he said that he didn't feel I would have the same safety concerns that I would have if I installed a s____d car tire.
                   Then; we went outside, got a beer, and (Unofficially) talked bad about MOB..   :beerchug:
                               
 I'm trying to be funny here guys. Let's go back to the tire discussion..
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #614 on: August 28, 2019, 08:08:51 pm »
Hey there, I'm looking at putting some fresher tires on the 1986 I just bought. I like the grip I'm getting from the Bridgestone's that are on it but I've already put a thousand miles on them and they are 4 years old. Question is can I use a 120/70 18 on the front? Can't find a match for the one it came with 110/80 18. Back is no problem, I found a match for it 150/ 80 16. No real hurry, they still have good depth for now.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #616 on: December 13, 2019, 01:55:28 am »
I have been running Avon AM26’s on my C10 this summer. I rode on just about every type of road surface on my Alaska run, wet and dry, with great traction and handling. I got over 21,000 miles out of my front tire before it was worn to the wear bars. I averaged between 7500 and 8500 miles on three rear tires with the one front tire. Very confidence-inspiring, even on loose, wet surfaces. I will continue to run these tires as long as they make them.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #617 on: December 13, 2019, 01:39:49 pm »
I have been running Avon AM26’s on my C10 this summer. I rode on just about every type of road surface on my Alaska run, wet and dry, with great traction and handling. I got over 21,000 miles out of my front tire before it was worn to the wear bars. I averaged between 7500 and 8500 miles on three rear tires with the one front tire. Very confidence-inspiring, even on loose, wet surfaces. I will continue to run these tires as long as they make them.
Awesome report. I have been recommending these tires for many years. They really are great tires. You would never guess they were bias ply tires. The puzzling thing is these have been available for many years and very few knew about them. Anyone who ever followed my C-10 thru the twisties can attest to the handling of the AM-26's.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #618 on: May 07, 2020, 01:12:34 am »
My how time flies, here it is May 6, 2020. I ended up putting 4 thousand miles on the tires that were on my Connie when I bought it. I changed my mind about buying Bridgestone and bought Michelin Pilot Active for the front and Dunlop D404 150/80-16 for the back. Just finished installing the front, it wasn't too bad of a job and saved some money. Getting the old Bridgestone off was much harder than getting the new tire on. This was my first time changing a MC tire. Looking for helpful hints for changing the back. I love the sound of a tire seating on the rim, it sounds like victory.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #619 on: May 07, 2020, 07:41:06 am »
Cut the old tyre off! Use a hand held grinder with a narrow 'slitting disc', soon goes through rubber and steel belts etc, just take your time near the wheel rims  ;D

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #620 on: May 15, 2020, 03:10:15 pm »
Thanks to all on this forum for the insights on tires. Pulled the trigger on a set of the Avon Storm 3-Ds for my 2000 C10. Went with the 110/80-18 front and 150/80-16 rear.

Will report back after install. 

Can't wait!  >:D

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #621 on: May 24, 2020, 12:34:05 pm »
I have old Avon Storms on my (almost rebuilt!) A9, 1995 UK bike, and have a new pair of Storm 3D-XM ready to fit.
I also went for a 110 front, as that is whats currently fitted: I'm now hearing than the 120 is best, and that's the listed size for the later bikes like mine. Anyone tried both, and which do you recommend?  ;D

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #622 on: May 24, 2020, 02:20:08 pm »
Thank you guys for all of the great advice and information on here.  I got my 2005 last fall and have been slowly learning about it through this forum.

I only have about 300 miles on them so far, but my set of Avon Storm 3D X-M's that I just installed are great!  110/80/18 front and 150/80/16 on the rear.  I'm almost certain that the tires on the bike when I bought it last fall were original from 2005, and it showed.

I'm not sure if if was just going from old squared off tires to fresh ones, but the turn in response with the new set is so light and playful that it's like a different bike.  I also haven't had it out in the wet yet, but my 30 mile commute looks like it will solve that problem next week.

I'll post an update at some point about how these tires wear.  Hopefully that is a year or two down the road.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #623 on: May 24, 2020, 03:49:45 pm »
People went for the 110 front for just the reasons you say!  :great:
I did read a post ages ago, where the owner had removed the 120 and gone back to 110and it turned in much quicker. Be very interesting to get some feedback as my bike came with a 110 so I've never ridden it with the 'correct' tyre!

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #624 on: May 25, 2020, 05:11:33 pm »
My 04 manual specifies the 120, I think it was the older bikes that called out the 110.