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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #75 on: April 01, 2011, 12:59:44 pm »
I just put on a second set. I got the front new/preowned for $50 so I was obligated to put on the rear as well. I liked the first set and ran them the 13,500 miles. I commute mostly flat freeway and the rear had a wide flat spot and the front had a strong center left, falling off near bald till sidewall. I had to drive it into corners but never got close to a dump on them. It depends on what you want from them. I put dynabeads in them hoping for even better wear patterning and less cupping from the front. Time will tell. Avons reportedly are better tires but wear faster.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #76 on: April 01, 2011, 03:10:49 pm »
I ran two sets of the OE Dunlops. They were OK at best but I didn't get great tire mileage from the (~6-7K miles/set). I went to the ME880 Metzlers in 1500 GoldWing size; got phenomenol mileage but only fair grip in the wet.  I ran two sets of them too.  Next I tried the Michelin Pilot GT in the 1500 'Wing size and ABSOLUTELY loved them. They offered grip in all conditions and very good tire mileage. Then Michelin stopped production. Bummer!  Right now I've got a set of Avon Azaro/Storm on it. I'm pretty impressed with the grip but the bike is considerably more "nervous" in dirty air (like around semi's). Fortunately I don't have to do a lot of slab riding so ... . I'm waiting to see how the mileage compares but I'm pretty sure it's going to be in the 6-7K range which is less than ideal IMO but grip vs mileage is almost always a trade-off.

Many folks report serious cupping with the OE Dunlops. I never had issue with that on my bike. YMMV.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #77 on: April 01, 2011, 05:18:46 pm »
Just ordered up a set of the Avons.  We'll see how they do.  Thanks for the info.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #78 on: April 01, 2011, 07:06:37 pm »
I'm pretty impressed with the grip but the bike is considerably more "nervous" in dirty air (like around semi's). Fortunately I don't have to do a lot of slab riding so ... .

Are you using the 120/70 size on the front?
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #79 on: April 02, 2011, 01:48:31 am »
Yes, my Avons are "stock" size for my 2000 C10. I attribute the "nervousness" to the more triangular profile of the tire over the more rounded profile of the Pilot GT's. I don't find it a big deal and the bike does feel more nimble; e.g. turn in is quicker and turns are easier to initiate. She's just a bit twitchy in the disturbed air around vehicles. As I said though, YMMV.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #80 on: April 02, 2011, 02:36:54 am »
Having ridden on Wing Tars including a set of Pilot GT right before moving to a 120/70 sized radial on the front. I too felt the same nervous twitchy feeling with the 120/70. Switching to the 110/80 size front tire gave me the same nice feel in terms of steering input and handling, but got rid of that twitchy feeling.  I attribute more of that triangle profile to the fact the 120/70 is pinched on the 3.0" wheel. Going to the 110/80 will give the profile the design engineers intended.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #81 on: April 02, 2011, 10:27:53 pm »
I'm having information overload reading this thread. It would be nice if we could have a survey/poll for the 3 or 4 main tire choices for handling, wet handling, stability and wear. Nevermind price.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #82 on: April 02, 2011, 11:57:02 pm »
IMO, it's a "pick two" and see how they feel and last game.  ;)
Unless you're springing for a 17" rear wheel upgrade the rear tire choices are limited.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #83 on: April 03, 2011, 05:34:35 pm »
I'll save my money for the next bike instead of the 17" upgrade. I ordered the BT45s.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2011, 01:06:04 pm »
I'll +1 Ranger Jim. Have also used Dunflop K491 & K177 GL1500 wang tars.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #85 on: May 23, 2011, 07:43:36 pm »
Dunno about anyone else but I was spinning up the rear in 3rd gear on a highway merge this morning.
on the stock dunlops ya the roads where damp but its been raining for past week figured the oil had to be washed away by now.

That got my heart pumping. please tell me the avons have a bit more stick in the wet.


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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #86 on: May 24, 2011, 01:04:51 pm »
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That got my heart pumping. please tell me the avons have a bit more stick in the wet.

Yup, they do. Glad ya didn't crash!

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #87 on: May 24, 2011, 09:02:44 pm »
telling me I had a semi truckin up my arse,  hence the little extra twist.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #88 on: June 16, 2011, 03:20:32 am »
I just had another set of Avon Storm/Azaro tires put on my 1998 Concours.   This time, I had the Storm 2 front tire put on, in the 110/80x18 size instead of 120/70.   It has only been a couple hundred miles so far, but the 110/80 tire fits fine, seems to be closer to the original, "odd" 120/70 Dunlop K701 tires originally fitted, and the speedometer/odometer appear to still be pretty accurate.    I am hoping that this front tire lasts better and doesn't cup heavily like the previous 120/70 D205 Dunlop or, to a lesser extent, the Avon Storm 120/70 which were the previous (2) front tires on the bike.    I got about 7K miles out of the last set - the rear tire could have likely gone a bit more, but I just prefer the feel of fresh new tires all around when I replace them.   After reading the tech article posted on the forum, I became fairly convinced that the author(s) were on the right track about rim width and tire profile distortion.  I am thinking that the squeezed in profile from shoehorning the "normal" 120/70 tires which require a 3.5" rim width contributes to the odd wearing in, excessive turn in and cupping patterns that seems too common with them.   We'll see how things go with this "undistorted" 110/80 Avon Storm 2 on front..

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2011, 06:00:12 pm »
I'm a Dunflop hater hater hater (yeah, that bad).  But now that I have 17" rims and can run any tire I want... I've got a set of Roadsmarts on there and I like em a lot.  Hated the 205s though... hate hate hate.  Sorry, cuppin', squarin'-off, no stickin', so and sos.   >:(

There, I feel better now.  ;)
They were MUCH better than the OEM rubber.
The Dunlop RoadSmart front tire is much better than the Dunlop D205 front tire because of the multiple compound tread.  Too bad Dunlop hasn't made a RoadSmart tire in 150/80-16.  :(

If the manufacturers decide to quit making the C10 sized tires in the near future I'm going to make a beeline to get 17" rims OR get another bike.


So I have a new Dunlop rear on the bike, I think it's a 205 -- whatever the stock tires are. Just got it last summer. Now the front has a little bit of dry rot in the center of the tread and I want to replace it. Can I run a RoadSmart front and a stock 205 rear? Would that be beneficial?
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #90 on: June 22, 2011, 12:46:03 am »
I like my 110 sized PR2 up front, best front tar yet on my C10.
The Dunlop K700 rear never really inspired much confidence.
I'll probably try out a Venom rear once I wear out my Pilot GT's assuming the bike lasts that long.  ;)
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #91 on: June 22, 2011, 04:07:27 am »
I like my 110 sized PR2 up front, best front tar yet on my C10.
The Dunlop K700 rear never really inspired much confidence.
I'll probably try out a Venom rear once I wear out my Pilot GT's assuming the bike lasts that long.  ;)

So your running a PR2 Front / Pilot GT rear ?

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #92 on: June 23, 2011, 09:57:59 am »
Yes.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #93 on: June 23, 2011, 03:48:10 pm »
cool. Been thinking about a PR2 front, with a BT-45 rear. Not near as good of mileage as the Pilot GT rear, but stock size, handles well, traction, gets better mileage that an Avon Azaro and aprox $35 cheaper than the Avon, V rated bias.

But then my BT45 front is doing pretty well. Got 12K on it and its got like left in it yet. So I might just stick with that.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #94 on: June 23, 2011, 04:06:04 pm »
Lately I have been thinking about this in terms of cost to go 15K miles.  Gross generalization....

With Avons you need 2 Azaro rears to 1 Storm front ( not sure of anyone is getting 15K on the Storm but its much better than the old Azaro front ). Using MS superstore thats $425 in cost. But you get radial tires, z rated, best handling and traction.

With the BT45's its still 2 to 1, rear to front but only at $318. You get V rated bias, but still has handling and traction close to the Avons.

With the Wing Tars we can get by with one set and get 20K plus for some of them. $300 a set. But now we have H rated bias, with slow steering and moderate traction.

This is where Pilot GT's were nice. 15K H rated bias, but had much better steering and good traction. At $279 a set ( or was it $259 that one time ). Why Michelin, why.

17" rear is the way to go. Now we get 1 set with 14K-15K mileage. No 2 to 1 deal. Were back down to $275-$280. And we get Z rated radials with the handling and the traction.  But costs $300-$600 to get there, depending on route taken.

At aprox $150 savings per 15K over Avons you can pay for the 17" rear in 2 sets. 30K miles.

At aprox $50 savings per 15K over BT45's 6 sets to pay for itself. 90K miles to payback.

So it all was me wondering what to try next. How serious to try and hunt down a 17" rear. Just missed one the other day on ebay. Or wait for the ever elusive Avon Storm 3 that fits our rear.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #95 on: June 28, 2011, 11:56:23 am »
Don't like to see the word "elusive" preceding Avon's "Storm 3." Are there any of you out in Cogdom, who have an inside track on the release date? I just heard about this tire from Steve Smith. I could use some new treads, although the current pair is still OK. I'll (safely) hold off for a while longer if their production is imminent! I just hope that it will as good a tire as the Storm 2 and Azaro. We C10 riders need it!

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #96 on: June 30, 2011, 06:55:30 pm »
Wow, 7 pages - it needs a summary post although Slybones is a pretty good summary.  I couldn't find the Pilot GT's so is the is Michelin Pilot Road (1, 2, or 3s) a replacement?
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #97 on: June 30, 2011, 07:41:09 pm »
Wow, 7 pages - it needs a summary post although Slybones is a pretty good summary.  I couldn't find the Pilot GT's so is the is Michelin Pilot Road (1, 2, or 3s) a replacement?


oh, that due to no back tire for the Pilots...
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #98 on: July 05, 2011, 07:13:55 pm »
think the summary is.

In stock sizes
OEM or Avons

I prefer the Avon by a wide margin but that could just be old tire v new tire.  I rode the last 2k miles out of the OEMs (8 year old rubber) then 2k on new Avons.


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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #99 on: July 06, 2011, 12:12:21 am »
well then Avon's it is
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