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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2011, 08:41:13 pm »
BT45's are $205 range shipped from MS Superstore

You'll get the stock size rear at 150/80-16.

For the front they do not make a 120/70-18 they only have the 110/80-18. The 110/80-18 is the one you want. If you read back through this thread, you will see that except for the factory dunflop 120/70-18 tires most ( all that I know of ) 120/70's are designed for a 3.5 inch wheel and your 05 Connie will have a 3.0" wheel.  3.5" is the min width and 3.75 is the max width.

As it turns out the 110/80 is designed for a 2.5" wheel as its minimum width ( also the stock wheel on the 86-93 model years ) and a 3.0" wheel as its maximum width ( the stock wheel on the 94-06 ). So it fits both models quite nicely.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2011, 11:03:06 pm »
It used to be funny to saythe best tires are "black and round", but given the fact that almost everyone in the industry has given up on the Connie sizes, even after a full 20 year run on the model is very discouraging.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2011, 11:24:16 pm »
Thanks for the info guys!!!

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #53 on: February 04, 2011, 01:37:59 pm »
 BT-45's Ordered -arrived - look good - off to tire shop [garage 20 deg f-that] we'll see in the spring.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2011, 05:58:05 am »
Another good tire choice that I have been running on my 2001 Connie is Dunlop Elite E3's. I purchased my bike last year with 41,000 miles on it I know have 53,000 and still have 3 to 4 32nds left. They are the Goldwing size. 160/80/16 Rear and a 130/70/18 on the front. Just an option if you carry extra weight or a passenger.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2011, 03:51:44 pm »
I am running Avon Roadriders on a 98 with a 110/80 front, stock rear.  They have been tested on dry pavement, gravel, rain, ice, and slush so far and have been superb thus far - nary a wiggle.  Waiting on mileage report.  Under 200 for the pair from motorcycle superstore.
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Worthwhile Storm 2 / Azaro ST info... received directly from Avon.
« Reply #56 on: March 09, 2011, 01:50:39 pm »
While it would be nice to have matched pairs more readily available, it looks like the slim choices will continue for the C10. Heard back from Kevin Corbett, a "Technical Service Representative" from Avon. The Storm 2/Azaro ST combination is their sole recommendation for the C10, further stating that they "will not cause any performance issues when used on the same bike." Tire pressure should be 36psi front /42psi rear for solo riding , and 38psi front /45psi rear for two-up riding. Hope the rest of you find this info useful.

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Re: Worthwhile Storm 2 / Azaro ST info... received directly from Avon.
« Reply #57 on: March 09, 2011, 02:57:39 pm »
While it would be nice to have matched pairs more readily available, it looks like the slim choices will continue for the C10. Heard back from Kevin Corbett, a "Technical Service Representative" from Avon. The Storm 2/Azaro ST combination is their sole recommendation for the C10, further stating that they "will not cause any performance issues when used on the same bike." Tire pressure should be 36psi front /42psi rear for solo riding , and 38psi front /45psi rear for two-up riding. Hope the rest of you find this info useful.

Good info. thanks!

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #58 on: March 09, 2011, 08:02:35 pm »
"The Storm 2/Azaro ST combination is their sole recommendation for the C10, further stating that they "will not cause any performance issues when used on the same bike."

But look out if you mount a Storm on one bike and the Azaro on a different bike, that's hazardous!  :o
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2011, 02:04:09 am »
Just went to the Storm/Azaro combo on my 2000 (old ones were Dunlop 700/701's). The difference was UNBELIEVABLE. Really. A little pricey, yes. Great improvement, also yes. No idea how long they'll  last, but they are amazing. This combo was recommended by others here.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2011, 05:25:30 am »
Just did some measurements and math on my Avon Venoms in GW sizes.  Looks like the front tire will give me 22,500 miles and the rear 38,000 miles.  But what is missing is the non-linear ratio of wear to mileage, because as the tire diameter gets smaller the number of rotations per mile increases and therefore there is more tire wear per mile. One of you engineers wanna help me out here?

Front 130/70B18 with Aramid belts, initial tread depth 4.7 mm  After 14,473 miles, tread depth is now 3.3.  Minimum tread depth is 1.0 mm, so I have 2.3 mm left on the tire.   

Rear 160/80B16 with Aramid belts, initial tread depth is 8.7 mm.  Same mileage as above, tread depth is now 5.0 mm.  Minimum tread depth (for 80 MPH) is 3.0 mm

What I want to know is how many miles to expect out of these tires at these wear rates.  Thanks!
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2011, 10:59:23 am »
I think there are so many other variables I think any calculations done with regard to tire diameter change would be lost in the noise.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #62 on: March 10, 2011, 12:04:08 pm »
@ Volcantour - It'd be great to put all of our faith in just that one factor... tread depth. Not sure how many miles you ride in a season. My goal is 5000-6000 miles. I'll change my tires every two years, even if they don't look visibly worn. About $400 (including labor) every two years is a small price to pay for the reassurance of safe passage. Happy trails!

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2011, 01:07:24 pm »
Thanks.  Am trying to schedule/budget when to buy new tires.  I did the 14K miles since November 09, or 16 months.  Figuring at that rate that I will need new rear tire about eight months from now??
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #64 on: March 10, 2011, 02:28:59 pm »
A rule to survive by... when on two wheels, always err on the side of caution. If you have to ask if you should wait... you probably shouldn't!

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #65 on: March 10, 2011, 04:02:10 pm »
Just did some measurements and math on my Avon Venoms in GW sizes.  Looks like the front tire will give me 22,500 miles and the rear 38,000 miles.  But what is missing is the non-linear ratio of wear to mileage, because as the tire diameter gets smaller the number of rotations per mile increases and therefore there is more tire wear per mile. One of you engineers wanna help me out here?
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2011, 01:37:20 pm »
Just read every entry in the "New Tech Article  94-06 Tire Fitment," begun by Colin. I received confirmation from Avon, confirming that the Storm 2/Azaro ST pairing is their sole recommendation for the C10, with no plans to expand the offerings.

But, apparently there's an issue with Avon's 120/70 properly fitting the stock rim, and some of you are more content with a 110/80.

So... what is the better (i.e. "safer") choice for the front, a 110/80-18, or the 120/70-18? Any problems with overall width, diameter? Those who have opted for the 110/80... why? Better handling, stability, wear? Any drawbacks?

Maybe we can all pitch in, build a factory, and fabricate our own tires... BRILLIANT! 

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2011, 01:47:59 pm »
"Any problems with overall width, diameter? Those who have opted for the 110/80... why? Better handling, stability, wear? Any drawbacks?"

A Mich PR2 110/80 fits well and feels great on my 03.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2011, 04:26:32 pm »
Not quite apples to apples, like doing a storm 2 in 120/70 and then 110/80 back to back. But I did a Dunlop D205 in the stock 120/70 and now doing a Bridgestone BT45 in the 110/80 size back to back.

To me the D205 always felt twitchy, nervious feeling. I always felt like I have to make constant minute corrections. The BT45 does not have that nervious feeling. Feels more stable.  Those are my pics in the Fitment article. Thats was my D205 with the calipers showing how its pinched. So in hindsight I wonder if that pinching is why it always had that twitchy feeling. I went from 2 sets of very stable wing size tires to a pinched D205. 

The BT45 in 110/80 as you can see in my pics from the article is not pinched at all. It maintained its same width both before and after mounting. To me it does not have the twitchy feeling. From a handling / steering input point of view  the D205 and BT45 feel pretty much the same. When I went from ME880's to Pilot GT's I noticed right off now much quicker and lighter the steering was for Pig Wing Tars. Then again when going from the Pilot GT's to the D205's I notice right off quicker and lighter steering. When going from the D205 to the BT45 I did not really notice any change in that regard. Still steers the same, but got lots of that stable feeling back.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2011, 04:30:36 pm »
From a "safer" point of view, I dont think I would worry. Go with what feels more comfortable to you.  There are so many Connies out there with 120/70 radials that I think we as a collective group would hear about it if there was a serious problem.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #70 on: March 11, 2011, 04:36:14 pm »
From a Liability point of view, there are many dealers and shops that will only sell and install the stock size tires that came on the bike. So a 120/70 is all you might get from them. And there was one report I heard where insurance denied a claim or at least tried to, because the owner did not have the stock size tires on the bike.

But what happens when the Lawyers figure out tires have specs, and were installing tires on wheels that are outside the specifications. Were screwed. Its Dunlop 700/701 are the only thing that I know of that meets all 3 criteria in terms of being Radial tires, that come in the 120/70 size that fit a 3.0 inch wheel according to the tire specs.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #71 on: March 11, 2011, 04:53:08 pm »
From a width point of view the tire size calulators say a 120/70 is supposed to be 4.72 inches and a 110/80 4.33 inches.
My 120/70 D205 only measured 4.45 mounted -- .27 inches
My 110/80 BT45 only measured 4.33 mounted -- right on the money


From a Diameter point of view a 127/70 is supposed to be 24.61 inches and a 110/80 24.93 inches. This is a little bit taller, but fits fine and has no clearance issues. A 130/70 Wing Tar is supposed to be 25.17 inches and we have tons of COG riders with those and have logged milliosn of miles with them. So I dont think will see much diameter issues. -- Side note from my speedo error factor from the 120/70 and 110/80 I suspect the pinching of the tire also increases the height as well as pinch the width.   
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #72 on: March 11, 2011, 04:58:06 pm »
Post whore.....

Overall I dont see any real down side to switching to 110/80 other than liability issues should you get into a law suit or a scrap with your insurance company.

Although one could ask why did momma K switch from the 110/80 of the 86-93 years to the 120/70 of the 94-06 years, in the first place. Did they feel the Connie was too heavy for the narrower 110 size and go to the 120 for a wider foot print to distribute weight better.  -- I just made that up. But it is an interesting question.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #73 on: March 17, 2011, 02:07:35 pm »
Bones that is a good question, but remember that the OEM 120/70 Dunlop tire they went to doesn't really measure like a true 120/70 tire.  It's actually as close to the 110/80 as it is to a true 120/70.  Kinda mid-sized.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #74 on: April 01, 2011, 12:30:18 pm »
So, my dealer over here is "encouraging" me to put on a set of the OE Dunlops.  I bought mine with some well used Avons.  I'm tempted to go back to the Avons, but are the OE's junk?