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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #300 on: November 17, 2014, 08:42:24 pm »
One of each, actually.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #301 on: November 17, 2014, 11:22:57 pm »
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #302 on: November 18, 2014, 05:12:38 pm »
The bike originally came with radials, I've used bias ply too, the bias tires seem to wear better obviously. I'm running the second radial rear, we'll see, but to answer your question, I can't tell the difference between the two other than wear.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #303 on: November 23, 2014, 05:11:38 pm »
Have BattLax now, think I'll try ME 880's next time.....

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #304 on: November 24, 2014, 07:38:54 pm »
So... Pirelli's win, hands down.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #305 on: January 08, 2015, 01:01:23 am »
This winter I will be replacing tires on my 86 for the first time. After much reading this is what i was thinking for 200 lb rider with full bags and almost empty trunk commuting and touring, or similar sized passenger with empty saddlebags on Sunday afternoon rides... Avon Cobra 150/80B16  load rating 77 with Michelin Pilot Road 3 -110/80/ZR18 up front. Was thinking that the Avon's 77 load rating would be good for my use, also liked that neither of these tires have a centerline either straight, ziggy or broken which I have found wear faster and start cupping. And yes my deceleration wobble is getting worse, I'm afraid to share my bike in case my friends get hurt. Last spring I replaced the head bearings so this winter Ill readjust them, full service on rear suspension just completed.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #306 on: January 18, 2015, 01:20:12 pm »
or I might just get a set of Avon's new Storm 3-D XM's. I'm sure they would be great, I only use Avon for my Commando. My guess is the front will wear (cup) around the same rate as the rear wears out, but it's all just a guess. I guess.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #307 on: February 09, 2015, 07:34:10 pm »
86 run the stock dunlops get 10,000 out of the rear and more out of the front

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #308 on: February 13, 2015, 02:04:07 pm »
    Okay....'splain sumthin' to me, Lucy.

    What is meant by "Gold Wing sizes?"  Isn't a size just a size? What makes the stock 110/80-18 front  & the 150/80-16 rear "Gold Wing" sizes? They look like Connie sizes to me.

    I see something like, "The Avon Venoms in Gold Wing sizes work well."

    Aren't these sizes stock?

    Confused.....

    Also....I know there are lots of opinions about choices...much depends on your size, load, riding style, and typical conditions.

    Soooo, here's my deal:

    • Currently running Avon Venoms (AM41 & 42).
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    • I like the idea of getting 10K+ out of tires, if possible

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #309 on: February 13, 2015, 02:47:29 pm »
Gold Wing sizes are 160/80x16 rear, 130/70x18 front. The rear will change your gearing about 250rpm +/- at 80mph. The front will make the bike handle like a truck.

What I and some others use:

110/80x18 Michelin PR3 on front. I'm on my fifth one. Sweet handling and riding tire with excellent wet/dry grip, all the way to the end which will be at 11-13k miles.

150/80x16 Shinko777 on the rear. I'm on my fourth one. Slightly larger in diameter than most others resulting in about 150 fewer rpms at 80mph. Nice handling, good grip wet or dry, last about 10-13k miles.

This combo is obviously a mixture of radial and bias. This combo works very well for me and others. Bonus: the Shinko is only about $90 to your door.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #310 on: February 13, 2015, 03:08:58 pm »
Thanx, Steve.  What's the advantage to going with the larger tires? 2-up? Heavy loads?

BTW, my existing front Venom is a 100/80-18. That's 10 narrower than stock. Unusual?
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #311 on: February 13, 2015, 05:08:28 pm »
Thanx, Steve.  What's the advantage to going with the larger tires? 2-up? Heavy loads?
Wingsize tires get more miles per dollar.  Their larger circumference create about an 8% overdrive effect as well. They can carry heavier loads as well due to the heavier construction.  However, in my opinion, they ride like a truck and handle about the same.  Handling is substantially slowed down from the stock sizes, particularly up front where I believe the 130 wing tire is seriously oversized for C-10 rims. When Michelin Pilot GTs were available, they had quite a following.  The only wing tires I ever rode on were these and they are reupted to have been the best ones ever.  Discontinued and no longer available so....

This is all MY personal opinion of Wang Sized tyres and in no way represents anyone important's summation.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #312 on: February 14, 2015, 04:49:42 pm »
I'm kinda on board with the Rev. It's all disadvantage with the Wing size, unless you want the gearing change in the rear. IMO, not worth it for what you give up. Unless you seriously over load the bike, weight hauling is not an issue.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #313 on: February 14, 2015, 05:34:38 pm »
IMO Wing size tires have a big advantage in mileage. As Rev said get more miles per dollar. In addition to the gearing change, they are way more stable. They don't track tar snakes, pavement grooves, etc near as bad as the smaller tires. -- Yes they do steer slower and are a bit harder on the pot holes. But some models ( not all ) have plenty good traction. So once you get them leaned over, they can carve a line pretty good. Just takes a lot more effort on the bars.

But all it all it depends on your need and riding style. There are plenty of people who use their Connie for freeway commuting and general moderate pace rides. For these folks they you don't give up that much ( you are not riding hard in the twisties ) , and you gain a lot in mileage and stability. This could easily be worth the trade off for some people.

Myself I have the PR3/777 combo. Been using the PR3/BT45 combo for a while, and just now went to the 777 on the last rear tire change.  But that is based on my desires. Depending on your needs and riding pace, Wing tires are not a bad choice for some.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #314 on: February 15, 2015, 04:08:32 pm »
Anyone got a good link for the PR3 Front and 777 Rear tires?  Who's found the best price and best service lately?  Seeing a lot of old links and expired sales.

Just getting started searching for myself.  Will post what I find.

http://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/motorcycle-tires/michelin-pilot-road-3-motorcycle-tire?b=2800397

http://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/street-tires/t11ce7qc

http://www.jpcycles.com/product/ZZ26283

Right now between those two links, free shipping and whatnot, it should total $222.46
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #315 on: February 15, 2015, 05:12:52 pm »
Anyone got a good link for the PR3 Front and 777 Rear tires?  Who's found the best price and best service lately?  Seeing a lot of old links and expired sales.

Just getting started searching for myself.  Will post what I find.

http://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/motorcycle-tires/michelin-pilot-road-3-motorcycle-tire?b=2800397

http://www.bikebandit.com/tires-tubes/street-tires/t11ce7qc

http://www.jpcycles.com/product/ZZ26283

Right now between those two links, free shipping and whatnot, it should total $222.46
Google is your friend. In the past, I've found the best price on the PR3 at Dennis Kirk.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #316 on: February 15, 2015, 06:28:44 pm »
Shinko 777 rear 150/80-16  $83.87 free shipping
PR3 front 110/80-18   $128.71 free shipping
Both at www.americanmototire.com
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #317 on: February 15, 2015, 07:07:28 pm »
Thanks Rev. I'm needing a new Shinko soon.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #318 on: February 16, 2015, 11:28:27 pm »
I'm not sure what the best tire on the rear is, but I know one I'll never put on again:  >:( :'(

I got one of those Roadriders in stock size from the Motorcycle Superstore and it started getting the cracking problem on me.



Turns out that tire manufacturers and tire salesmen don't like giving warranties on the crap they sell you, so if I can assist your tire choices, please take the roadriders off your list.

(I love the tire for the tire, if there was no cracking I'd have a rave review about it, but Motorcycle Superstore is making this more painful to me than it needs to be).
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #319 on: February 17, 2015, 05:49:06 pm »
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #320 on: March 01, 2015, 08:21:24 pm »
It looks like we're about 5 years down the road from where this post started, but I'm looking to buy a 2005 CL10, front tire is new (Michelin) but can't find the matching one for the rear (currently Dunlop on the back).  I'm most concerned because the front is radial and I assume just as with cars, we don't won't to mix Radial and Bias ply, however looks like many of the rear options are Bias ply.

I'm kinda leaning towards an Avon for the rear, at least preserving the Radial/Radial balance.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #321 on: March 02, 2015, 04:32:19 pm »
I'm most concerned because the front is radial and I assume just as with cars, we don't won't to mix Radial and Bias ply.
Have you perused all 22 pages of this thread?
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #322 on: March 02, 2015, 08:45:11 pm »
I'm most concerned because the front is radial and I assume just as with cars, we don't won't to mix Radial and Bias ply.
Have you perused all 22 pages of this thread?

Or at least some of them? It's all in there.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #323 on: March 03, 2015, 01:26:32 am »
I'm not sure what the best tire on the rear is, but I know one I'll never put on again:  >:( :'(

I got one of those Roadriders in stock size from the Motorcycle Superstore and it started getting the cracking problem on me.



Turns out that tire manufacturers and tire salesmen don't like giving warranties on the crap they sell you, so if I can assist your tire choices, please take the roadriders off your list.

(I love the tire for the tire, if there was no cracking I'd have a rave review about it, but Motorcycle Superstore is making this more painful to me than it needs to be).

I have run two sets of the AM 26 Roadriders from MSS with no issues. Those must have been in the warehouse for quite a while.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #324 on: March 07, 2015, 07:47:50 am »
Well I heard one too many problems with Avon tires, altho I had 6 on my Norton that I loved...
For the much heavier C10 with accesories and a big trunk I finally decided to try Michelin.
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So that's a premium sport touring front radial / reinforced cruiser rear bias combo.
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