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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #350 on: April 12, 2015, 01:24:52 pm »
There's an article on the Avons in the current (May) issue of Rider magazine.
Couldn't find it. Do you have a link?

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #351 on: April 12, 2015, 01:29:05 pm »
Mike, it was on pg 110 of the paper issue. I'll see if I can find a link for you.
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Mike-didn't find it either. I guess they lag the paper copy with the online posting to encourage subscription. Sorry.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #352 on: April 13, 2015, 11:28:44 am »
Just got in a new 3D XM Avon for the back ( how's that back tire doing ) of my 06 bike to go with the Storm 2 Ultra on front.  Both are stock 110/80-18 and 150/80-16 sizes.  This will be my first try with the new XM.  I have a little less confidence in this tire going in than in the old Azaro.  WE'll see how I like it soon enough.
Finally put it in and rode about 700 miles this weekend.  It did fine for me.  Not overly confidence inspiring just comfortable, but then I did half of my riding or more on wet roads or in the rain so never really pushed it.  It never slipped a bit and felt predictable enough..  The wiggle is there in turbulent air (behind trucks) but that is just gonna be there IMHO due to Connie's big plastics and relatively small tire size.  Never felt unsettled and I rode some distance up to 115 mph without issue.  Rode a lot of rain grooves and reground highway too , but it didn't follow the lines as badly as most tires.  That was nice.  So far I have no complaints. 
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #353 on: April 13, 2015, 11:47:34 am »
If you want a long lasting (15k mile) tire that steers and rides like a truck and really stable, get the Dunlop ELITE 3 (not DUNLOP AMERICAN ELITE, it's not the same) in Goldwing sizes DUNLOP ELITE 3 130/70B-18 M/C 63H, FRONT  and DUNLOP ELITE 3 160/80B-16 M/C 80H, REAR (MULTI TREAD)

I have these on mine and really like them a lot. They feel very predictable on multiple surfaces and track extremely well through the corners (just pick a line and go). Hope Dunlop keeps making these.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #354 on: April 13, 2015, 12:56:21 pm »
I'm hesitant to jump into a tire thread when I'm so new to this forum.....  but, I just purchased a 95 Connie the other day, which came with Avon Azaros front and rear, which the PO said he put on 4 years ago- mileage average was 2000 a year, according to him.  Tires look great- a lot of tread, no cracking, nothing.  And they have felt fine (better than fine- very solid).  Well, date code says rear is from 2004, front is from 2003.  I expect that the date code doesn't lie, but the tires sure do look good.  Now I'm paranoid to ride the bike at all.

So, I just ordered a pair of Avon Storm 3Ds, front and rear, stock sizes.  I hope I like them.  I have been using Dunlops on my current daily driver (77 GL1000), but have not been happy with them at all.  After I went through the last one in 4600 miles, I decided I would pay the premium for high quality tires.  That, and I expect to put on more than 10,000 miles in the next year, and I would rather not replace tires any more often.  Thus the Avons.  Sure hope that I like them.  I did pay a bit too much- wish I had seen Crashcup's spreadsheet, but I did price them, and eventually went with MC Superstore because they had them in stock- everyplace else I checked said the rear wouldn't ship until early May.  Of course, I've never heard of Rocky Mtn. ATV, so.....

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #355 on: April 13, 2015, 01:21:35 pm »
I'm hesitant to jump into a tire thread when I'm so new to this forum.....  but, I just purchased a 95 Connie the other day, which came with Avon Azaros front and rear, which the PO said he put on 4 years ago- mileage average was 2000 a year, according to him.  Tires look great- a lot of tread, no cracking, nothing.  And they have felt fine (better than fine- very solid).  Well, date code says rear is from 2004, front is from 2003.  I expect that the date code doesn't lie, but the tires sure do look good.  Now I'm paranoid to ride the bike at all.
(Wow! those tires are old if you read the code right!
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=11
Tires Manufactured Since 2000

Since 2000, the week and year the tire was produced has been provided by the last four digits of the Tire Identification Number with the 2 digits being used to identify the week immediately preceding the 2 digits used to identify the year.

Example of a tire manufactured since 2000 with the current Tire Identification Number format:
DOT U2LL LMLR 5107    
51    Manufactured during the 51st week of the year
07    Manufactured during 2007



So, I just ordered a pair of Avon Storm 3Ds, front and rear, stock sizes. 
( I had a problem with the stock size 120 70zr 18 because it was for a 3.5" rim. I cured it by replacing it with a 110 80zr 18. The 120 is too big for your rim. http://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/storm-3d-x-m  ...)   
I hope I like them.  I have been using Dunlops on my current daily driver (77 GL1000), but have not been happy with them at all.  After I went through the last one in 4600 miles, I decided I would pay the premium for high quality tires.  That, and I expect to put on more than 10,000 miles in the next year, and I would rather not replace tires any more often.  Thus the Avons.  Sure hope that I like them.  I did pay a bit too much- wish I had seen Crashcup's spreadsheet, but I did price them, and eventually went with MC Superstore because they had them in stock- everyplace else I checked said the rear wouldn't ship until early May.  Of course, I've never heard of Rocky Mtn. ATV, so.....

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #356 on: April 13, 2015, 01:30:11 pm »
Hasn't been an Azaro front (for the ZG1000) made in awhile. Since that time we've seen what... STORMS, STORM ULTRAS, STORM ULTRA I Is, STORM ULTRA 3Ds, and now the STORM ULTRA 3D XMs. Yep, been awhile. I'm happy to hear you're changing them out.  :great:
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #357 on: April 13, 2015, 02:02:33 pm »
I really wanted that "0" to look like a "1" on the date code, but as hard as I try, it's still a "0".  Thanks for the heads up on the front sizing - cancelled the order on the front - maybe I'll be able to save a few dollars as well.  I'm anxious to get them on so I can ride!

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #358 on: April 15, 2015, 11:16:56 pm »
I finally decided to try Michelin.
PilotRoad3 and Commander 2 in stock sizes.
So that's a premium sport touring front radial / reinforced cruiser rear bias combo.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #359 on: May 04, 2015, 07:49:37 am »
I couldn't help but notice that this discussion mostly addresses stock tire sizes (16" rear and 18" fronts).  And that lovely spreadsheet that someone generously built contained no info on 17" rubber.

I bought an '02 a few months ago, and I am in the process of converting both wheels to 17".  Is it safe to assume that the described characteristics of 16 and 18 inch tires will apply to the 17" equivalents?

I've read enough here to know that mixing biases is not a big deal.  But given that I'm buying both tires at the same time, wouldn't it be better to buy a matched set? 

FWIW, I weigh 225, and I am not an aggressive rider (though I want to be).  I hope to take 1-2 medium/long distance solo trips per year.  The rest of my miles are spent on occasional commutes and weekend day/joy rides.  Tires are likely to expire by date than by mileage for me.  Having said all that, can someone out there recommend their favorite choice for 17" tires?  Or should I just make my choice based on the information for 16"/18" tires?
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #360 on: May 04, 2015, 11:43:36 pm »
Dude- I am running Dunlop Roadsmart 2 front and rear - 120/70 front, 160/70 rear. I really like these tires but find the front very noisy on these rough Texas roads. The front tread on the Roadsmart has very aggressive rain grooves. I may try something else next time.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #361 on: May 05, 2015, 12:13:37 am »
Dano 44 I have heard that all the cool people only ride the best..Pirelli sport demons front and rear, Nice grip and good wear, great in the rain >:D
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #362 on: May 14, 2015, 10:58:36 pm »
I couldn't help but notice that this discussion mostly addresses stock tire sizes (16" rear and 18" fronts).  And that lovely spreadsheet that someone generously built contained no info on 17" rubber.

I bought an '02 a few months ago, and I am in the process of converting both wheels to 17".  Is it safe to assume that the described characteristics of 16 and 18 inch tires will apply to the 17" equivalents?

I've read enough here to know that mixing biases is not a big deal.  But given that I'm buying both tires at the same time, wouldn't it be better to buy a matched set? 

FWIW, I weigh 225, and I am not an aggressive rider (though I want to be).  I hope to take 1-2 medium/long distance solo trips per year.  The rest of my miles are spent on occasional commutes and weekend day/joy rides.  Tires are likely to expire by date than by mileage for me.  Having said all that, can someone out there recommend their favorite choice for 17" tires?  Or should I just make my choice based on the information for 16"/18" tires?
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #363 on: May 15, 2015, 12:24:18 pm »
Just got off the phone with a local, private bike repair shop. Wanted to get his mount/balance price if I brought the tires & wheels in to him. Asked me what I was going with for tires. I figured I'd go with the "consensus" here - Michelin PR3 front and Shinko 777 rear.

His disdain for the Shinko was palpable. Like he wasn't sure he'd even agree to mount it.

"Junk. Absolute junk."

And he owns the '03 Connie I see parked outside his shop.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #364 on: May 15, 2015, 01:27:16 pm »
Just got off the phone with a local, private bike repair shop. Wanted to get his mount/balance price if I brought the tires & wheels in to him. Asked me what I was going with for tires. I figured I'd go with the "consensus" here - Michelin PR3 front and Shinko 777 rear.

His disdain for the Shinko was palpable. Like he wasn't sure he'd even agree to mount it.

"Junk. Absolute junk."

And he owns the '03 Connie I see parked outside his shop.

Why the hate, ya think?

Old opinions are difficult to get away from...I remember getting some Shinkos when I was a parts manager...20 years ago...and they were junk!  Then they buy Yokohama's motorcycle technology...apply it to their product line...and, a few years later, they are competetive in the bike tire marketplace...

But, first impressions are difficult to leave behind...

I have Shinkos front and rear on my bike...and, there's a 17" Verge 2X waiting to be mounted on my MS wheel...I have no problems running their tires.

Years ago I can remember being at Daytona for Bike Week and hearing this new brand of motorcycle tire called
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #365 on: May 16, 2015, 01:02:12 pm »
Just got off the phone with a local, private bike repair shop. Wanted to get his mount/balance price if I brought the tires & wheels in to him. Asked me what I was going with for tires. I figured I'd go with the "consensus" here - Michelin PR3 front and Shinko 777 rear.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #366 on: May 16, 2015, 01:20:25 pm »
I figured I'd go with the "consensus" here - Michelin PR3 front and Shinko 777 rear.

There can be no consensus in a tire thread...why that's just plain un-American.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #367 on: May 16, 2015, 01:24:03 pm »
I figured I'd go with the "consensus" here - Michelin PR3 front and Shinko 777 rear.

There can be no consensus in a tire thread...why that's just plain un-American.

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #368 on: May 25, 2015, 02:43:17 pm »
Want to replace the front Dunflop 120/70 18 the PO put on. About 3,000 miles on them but after a 300 mile day yesterday found them to be very twitchy/wiggly. Gotta say it pierced my confidence a bit.

Anyway, I'm having a hard time finding the Avon Storm 2 Ultra or the Venoms in that size tire or preferably the OEM 110/80 18. Anyone have a line on where I can find them? I checked several vendors and couldn't find them.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #369 on: May 25, 2015, 03:16:50 pm »
Can't answer that right now. But I have a more basic question.

Does anyone (other than Avon) make a radial for the 16" rear wheel on a Connie?
I think everyone (except Avon) has stopped production of 16" radials.. (gloom)

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #370 on: May 25, 2015, 03:22:10 pm »
Can't answer that right now. But I have a more basic question.

Does anyone (other than Avon) make a radial for the 16" rear wheel on a Connie?
I think everyone (except Avon) has stopped production of 16" radials.. (gloom)

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #371 on: May 25, 2015, 03:46:13 pm »
I have the dunlop E3 ....I know dunlop seems to be a dirty word here but I have no complaints. However, my bike came with them so I have nothing to compare it to, and not too many curves around here. Funny, a customer of mine says goldwing owners on his forum love dunlops.
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #372 on: May 25, 2015, 03:58:26 pm »
I've run many a mile on the Dunlop Elite 3 Radials on my GL1800. In looking at the sizes available it appears they are at least 30mm wider than the stock size called for on a C10. ???

The dearth of manufacturers for "stock" sized tires is what is causing me to go to the Mean Streak conversion (in the works as I type this). I'm sick of not being able to get tires (been waiting 2 weeks so far  >:( )
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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #373 on: May 25, 2015, 04:27:46 pm »
I've run many a mile on the Dunlop Elite 3 Radials on my GL1800. In looking at the sizes available it appears they are at least 30mm wider than the stock size called for on a C10. ???


I see that my front is a 130 grrrr sad face. Dunlop does make a roadsmart in a 110, but that's not what I have, wonder how it would be to put a roadsmart on the front and e3 on the back.

http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/tire-catalog/sport-trackday-race/sport-touring/roadsmart-ii/

http://www.dunlopmotorcycle.com/tire-catalog/road/touring/elite-3/

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Re: So what's the best brand/model tires for the C10?
« Reply #374 on: June 04, 2015, 08:37:06 pm »
I was Wrong  ::) Dunlop does NOT make a matched set of radials for this bike.....the rear E3 radial is apparently too big, They do make a E3 bias which fits the rear, and a roadsmart II radial which is correct size for the front......and that is as close as you get for dunlops .....so sorry if I caused confusion.

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