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So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« on: January 08, 2012, 08:23:46 pm »
I'm starting to get a little interested in a tire changing machine.  After searching the forum, I see that the ever popular HF model is no longer carried by HF. Several look -a- likes are listed on Amazon. So, who's recently bought what, from where, and how's it working out?

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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 08:40:24 pm »
I have never heard anything bad about the No-Mar tire changers.  And the best thing is that they are made in America with American steel.

 
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 08:55:57 pm »
I have never heard anything bad about the No-Mar tire changers.  And the best thing is that they are made in America with American steel.



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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 09:00:19 pm »
I'm starting to get a little interested in a tire changing machine.  After searching the forum, I see that the ever popular HF model is no longer carried by HF. Several look -a- likes are listed on Amazon. So, who's recently bought what, from where, and how's it working out?

Thanks!
Ron


You can buy the old HF machine off of Ebay. They probably still run less than $200. Maybe less than $100. Do a search on Ebay for "motorcycle tire machine". A whole bunch of HF type machines appear. Although, I would suggest buying a Nomar bar to go with it. It's a lot more cost effective, and works great. Although you will also need to buy some rim protectors to protect the wheels from scratches.
 The Nomar machines are much nicer (IMO). But they cost quite a bit more. It's something that you would need to decide. How much do you want to spend?

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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 09:03:22 pm »

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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2012, 09:06:22 pm »
Here's a Cherry Hill machine on Ebay. These are made by Nomar, but not as nice as the Nomar brand machines. But they also cost less than the Nomar machines.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-Tire-Changer-Cycle-Hill-BIG-PACKAGE-/250867227976?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr&hash=item3a68da1d48

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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2012, 10:40:31 pm »
Northern carries a copy of the HF changer:

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_18863_18863

They do not appear to have a copy of the motorcycle adaptor, though. 

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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2012, 11:29:49 pm »
Dang the prices for the HF model have done up. At $230 for the HF one plus another $115 or so for the Nomar bar to go with in your into $345 range for the low end changer with good bar. The Cycle Hill standard setup with no balancer at $465 is from Nomar and already has the good bar. Also has better mounting points on the wheel which are nomar as well, where the HF one has not such protection at the wheel clamping points. -- the cost difference is closing. The Cycle Hill std package is starting to look better IMO.
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 12:18:27 am »
Thanks for the quick  replies. They square pretty well with what I thought I saw. What I don't see and understand is the "motorcycle tire adapter" for the HF unit. From old posts with pictures, there are some HF clones for about $100 that show up on Amazon under a different name, but only one mentions the adapter. It tells to search for "Tire changer" and says you'll see it, but I didn't.

I've become convinced that spending a little extra for good (well, better) stuff is usually preferable to spending twice. That puts the Cycle Hill unit in striking distance of <$500. That's 6.5 tire changes @ $80 each. I only have one bike and that would last me about 5 years. Now, the time and convenience also figure in and if the HF machine has gone away, that means a Cycle Hill machine would hold its value pretty well for resale. That lowers the effective cost quite a bit.
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2012, 12:42:14 am »
I got one of these not long ago



I went looking because the HF unit was no longer available.

It's not quite as convenient to use as a stand up tire changer with bar. (but I can set it on the tail gate of my truck so I am standing up while spooning the tires off and on)

What I really like is it is small enough to hang on the wall during the 99.999999% of the time I'm not using it so I'm not walking around it or more than likely tripping on it. Price is up a little but you should be able to get on and a set of tire spoons for around $120.

I got mine here not sure who else carries it.

 http://www.jakewilson.com/p/52/-/347/753/-/28961/Motorsport-Products-Portable-Tire-Changing-Stand-With-Bead-Breaker

It works fine especially for the number if tire I'm going to be changing with it.
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2012, 12:52:12 am »
Hmm.... thanks Russ. Is it hard to keep it in one spot while you work on the tire or does it move around? I guess it could be clamped down using the lower ring?
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2012, 03:17:29 am »
I've had it since about last September used it once really to swap a set of Avon Azaro/Storms for a set of Wing size Avon Venoms on Connie wheels.
I've done a fair amount of wrenching in my life on everything from Nuclear Submarines to lawn mowers. I've changed a bunch of car and truck tires over the years from 12" to 1000 20" tractor trailer tires.  It was the first time however I had changed a set of MC tires I was pleasantly surprised at how easily they came off and went on. I removed the valve cores put it a wheel on the changer broke one bead flopped it over broke the other, lubed them up and spooned them off and the new tire one.

The changer held the wheel solidly the only issue is the threaded rod is a little short and will only hole the Connie rear on one way. I had to hold the  opposite side of the wheel down to break one of the beads on the rear and just slipped it over an secured it with the wing nut to actually change the tire.  I'm pretty happy with the purchase I had been thinking about getting a tire changer for a while  content to just carry them in a let a dealer mount and balance them for $20 or so but last summer I took one in and they charged me $40 which finally put me over the edge.
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2012, 10:58:03 am »
More good insight. I've changed a few tires, but not a lot, mostly the occasional lawnmower tires and some pickup truck tires when I was a kid and had NO $.
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2012, 12:27:04 pm »
I bought a No-Mar two years ago and do not regret it. It was a bit pricey, but it performs as advertised and makes short work of the 180's on the Bandit and the 170's on the Connie.
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2012, 09:05:04 pm »
Handyman:  Maybe I just need to make a trip to beach every now and again and rent some time on yours...
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2012, 05:26:02 pm »
.... And the best thing is that they are made in America with American steel.

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C'mon, you gotta laugh out loud every time you see a UJM owner post this kind of comment.

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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2012, 06:18:20 pm »
.... And the best thing is that they are made in America with American steel.

 :rotflmao:

 :rotflmao:

 :rotflmao:

C'mon, you gotta laugh out loud every time you see a UJM owner post this kind of comment.

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I sure as hell didn't give Kawasaki any money since I bought my bike used.  So what if I like to support the few businesses that still use American products made by Americans.  I didn't realize supporting local (St. Louis, MO) businesses was a funny matter.......... ::)
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2012, 06:29:40 pm »
Not all Japanese bikes are made in Japan.  I owned a Honda Shadow that was made in Maryville, OH.

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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2012, 07:57:08 pm »
Lots of C10s were made here in Nebraska.
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2012, 07:59:36 pm »
It's kind of the same deal for auto's and trucks. My Honda Accord was made in the USA. My Chevy truck was made in Mexico!  ???

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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2012, 08:03:15 pm »

 
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I sure as hell didn't give Kawasaki any money since I bought my bike used.  So what if I like to support the few businesses that still use American products made by Americans.  I didn't realize supporting local (St. Louis, MO) businesses was a funny matter.......... ::)
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2012, 01:49:31 am »
Not all Japanese bikes are made in Japan.  I owned a Honda Shadow that was made in Maryville, OH.

Yeah, I owned one of those ACE's, too! It was a beautiful bike, but it was very slow and rode like crap! I sold it, bought a Connie and had money to boot!!   ;D

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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2012, 02:52:50 pm »
.... And the best thing is that they are made in America with American steel.

 :rotflmao:

 :rotflmao:

 :rotflmao:

C'mon, you gotta laugh out loud every time you see a UJM owner post this kind of comment.

 :-*

I sure as hell didn't give Kawasaki any money since I bought my bike used.  So what if I like to support the few businesses that still use American products made by Americans.  I didn't realize supporting local (St. Louis, MO) businesses was a funny matter.......... ::)

I don't think this argument applies at all, since you can't buy a comparable US made bike at any price. And the thought, is to give preference to US made product, not to blindly buy whatever US made thing there is. In other words, if you can buy something US made, and it is competitively priced, then do so.
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Re: So what kind of tire changing machines are you buying now?
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2012, 02:59:00 pm »
Well, this thread kinda went south, didn't it.   :o

Just to get us back on track, here's what I've been looking at recently:
http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-TC221-Tire-Changer