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Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« on: May 29, 2012, 02:00:04 am »
The reviews are great on this tire.  Great in the wet/dry and good in twisties with great tread life.  Anyone have experience with them?
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2012, 02:06:12 am »
I do. In my experience that is the  most slippery scary dangerous tire you could buy. It has zero traction in the wet and not much more on dry roads.  Never again.
Others swear by them but you asked my opinion and I gave it.
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 02:17:36 am »
I do. In my experience that is the  most slippery scary dangerous tire you could buy. It has zero traction in the wet and not much more on dry roads.  Never again.
Others swear by them but you asked my opinion and I gave it.
Wow!  Good to hear the first negative opinion about it.  There were tons saying they were great wet traction.  I wonder if it has to do with the way the bike rides.
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 03:11:24 am »
Nope. Its not the bike. It is the compound the tire is made from. Mostly plastic. That is why is lasts to long and that is why it so slippery. On clean dry pavement I could accelerate in second gear and  break the tire loose easily.
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2012, 04:32:12 am »
IMO the 880's do better on a heavier bike but still require caution in the wet.

880's on a C-10 in the wet and or cold pavement is the reason ABS and Ktrac were invented :D ;D
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2012, 05:36:11 am »
These were on my bike when I bought it.  Don't know how many miles the PO put on them, but I road them for 15k.  They wear like iron.  I think they were designed for chrome monsters to go from water hole to water whole on dry sunny days.  And if you really wanted to show off, you could light them up pretty easily.  Not for a sport tourer in any weather.
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2012, 07:10:53 am »
NO, I tried them on my Chrome Monster as well, thinking just that. I took them off long before they were worn. They were just too hard to give any decent grip. But like on the C10, they were not good. Being hard they wear good, they do not give great grip in almost every condition. They start off not bad (being new). But they get steadily worse as you ride on them. I would walk a fine line between the tires pushing wide in turns or putting so much input into the tires that they would loose grip and start to slip. Some folks may like them and swear by them. I just swore at them. I won't use them again.

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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2012, 09:50:09 am »
I've had 'em too - they last a loooooong time. Unfortunately they really suck at anything that involves handling or traction, so you have a looooong time to hate them and regret your decision.  :'(  Steve
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2012, 10:54:07 am »
I had them on mine when I bought my bike. Got 5000 miles out of them. Not sure how many miles were already on them. Put on PR3's and I wish I would have dumped the Metzlers from the start. Metzlers were horrible in the rain, could feel every paint line, and never felt right in any turn. I only say this because the PR3's are so superior. It fells like a different bike. I wouldn't ride with the Metzlers in the rain it felt so unsafe. Now I could care less if it is wet outside.
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2012, 11:34:58 am »
A guy I work with has them on his GL1500.  I asked him about them after hearing what I heard here.  He's just waiting for them to wear out so he can replace them with anything else. 
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2012, 12:13:07 pm »
Wore out a couple of sets of 880s on my Vulcan 800-A.

Only rode in the rain when I got caught in a storm.

On that particular bike, the 880s gripped very well.  I live in N GA and rode up and down Rt 129, Rt 60 & Rt 180 innumerable times. 

I remember the day I had Dunlop 404s put on at Rider's Hill.  They were so bad I just about ran off Rt 60 a couple of times before I realized the tires -- even well after 50-60 miles -- were nowhere near as good as the 880s.

Got 12k out of the front 880s and 10k in back.

But ... what people say about 880s getting wiggly on the melted plastic solid/dotted lines on highways is SO true.  Just like hitting a patch of WD-40.

What I hated the most were the tar snakes in the mtns on hot days with the skinny little tire on the Vulcan.  The only way to deal with the sliding was to say "Wheeeeeeee!!!" until the tires hit solid pavement again.

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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2012, 02:50:08 pm »
I am on my second stock sized 880 on the rear with the Z6 up front.  It works great for the interstate droning that I do.  I think a lot of the really bad reviews are gold wing sized tires or tires that are several years old.  Having said that, I would never run one on the front, I don't ride in the rain, and I keep in mind this is a cruiser tire.  I have 5K on my current 880 and I am about to leave next week on another 4-5k mile trip with no tire worries.  Try that with your Avons  :P  If I didn't travel so far I would probably go for a matching pair of BT45's.   

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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2012, 02:52:46 pm »
Greg, I have heard from a number of endurance (i.e. "Iron Butt"-type) riders that they have used the 880 solely due to its long life capability, but that it presents issues in less-than-ideal conditions. IMHO, there are better choices for your C10.
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2012, 03:41:54 pm »
 8)  Had several sets of 880's on my Guzzi Stone.  Front liked to cup a little after about 10,000 miles.  A few people were having trouble with them coming apart.  They lastede a long time and gave good stable ride on the Guzzi.  Last tires I bought for the Guzzi I put a radial on the back and was converted from the 880s instantly. I did not realize how much I was giving up in grip till I rode with a radial rear tire (dragging the pegs is now a common thing).   
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2012, 04:50:49 pm »
I am on my fourth set on my monsterously large yamaha with over 50k on her (12k-15k miles per set)...  Never had any issues, yet I don't push that fat pig very hard...  they are somewhat slippery on the wet, but they do wear like iron.  I live in Kansas, so I rarely turn, and when I do it is uninspiring.  I don't think I will put them onto the C-10, mostly due to the experience and opinion expressed by this group....   But, considering that I ride like a scared grandmother (slow and strait), they may work, but not willing to tie myself to 15k+ miles on a set when there are other long life options for similar $$.
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2012, 09:36:16 pm »
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Great in the wet/dry and good in twisties

After 8 years of Connie ownership on this forum, and the old forum, I could only think of one person who would've said that.  I pretty much concur with what everyone has said.  However I'm on my 5Th set of wing sized and find them perfect for my use.  I do a lot of slap and if I really wanted a canyon carver I would've bough a GSXR :motonoises:

If you find it tiring (no pun intended) changing tires every 5k miles or so you might wanna give them a try later.  As a first tire Id look at something else JM2C's!!

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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2012, 10:35:50 pm »
Ok, so these tires are OUT!  My local dealer has a great deal on a set of Pirelli Demons.  Bad/good?
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2012, 02:32:34 am »
From reading here, the long lasting tire I am going to try is the Dunlop E3 in wing sizes.  In a month I will have personal experience.  The reason I am going there is that folks here get near, at, or over 20K on them.  So even 16K would be decent cycle tire wear.  From what I hear these are NOT super sport tires or anything, but the sliding some talk about with the 880's is not as prevelant.

I do lots of straights, but still have fun in some curves though my fastest days are behind me.  These seems like a long lasting tire that is "less bad" than the 880's according to what I read here.  I don't mind if the bike is a little heavier in the turns - not one bit.  I would, howwever, mind if I felt no confidence in a tire...  HTH 
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2012, 04:05:57 am »
Son loved the Sport Demons on his 86
one more thing on the 88s.  If traction in turns was the only problem that can be dealt with at the right grip.  Emergency braking however can not.   They will lock up easily at any opportunity.
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2012, 11:46:28 am »
Son loved the Sport Demons on his 86
one more thing on the 88s.  If traction in turns was the only problem that can be dealt with at the right grip.  Emergency braking however can not.   They will lock up easily at any opportunity.
If you watched the Indy 500 this year you got an example of how they handle paint stripes.  Every wreck I saw involved a paint stripe in a corner.

Funny.  When I read your comment about 880s slipping on paint stripes ... my back tensed up.  As if I were on the bike again, praying for solid ground.

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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2012, 10:55:55 pm »
Oh I forgot to mention..

When the ambient temps get above 107 the 880's seem to soften up and grip rather well, numerous desert crossings proved this for me :))
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2012, 02:25:41 am »
I ordered the Pirelli Demons today. Should be in tomorrow or Friday.
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2012, 03:43:15 am »
Whow can't believe all the negative feedback on the ME 880s.  They are a high mileage tire especially the wing sizes.  My rear wing size went 36,700km the front went 44,150km!!  Both were still safe to drive.  Over half of the miles would have been in the twistys of my neighbouring province BC which is often wet.  I often ride with my son who is on one of his crotch rockets so the rides are somewhat aggressive. Have to say I love these tires (one of the few I guess) put my second set on with the rear now have about 12,000km on it and the front have about 6000km on it.  Both tires look brand new.  Maybe I just don't know the difference but I have rode on track tires and a whole lot of other "sticky" tires my son uses on his bikes.  Overall these tires give awesome mileage, and are sticky enough for low-med aggressive riding (if you can figure out what that means) both on wet or dry conditions. JMHO :beerchug:

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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2012, 01:31:09 am »
I'm glad I came upon this thread , its getting close to time to buy tires for my C10 . I WAS looking at the Metzlers but since I ride in a highly aggressive manner on roads loaded with tar snakes and live here in the rainy Pacific NW  they are formally out . Now I know why most of the coggers here I met run Avons or something  similiar . I love the Dunlop Roadsmart I have up front ... just wish there was something similiar for the rear . TIme to consider the 17 in wheel mod  ::)
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Re: Thinking of the Metzeler-ME880. Opinions?
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2012, 01:37:12 am »
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