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Re: speedo and new tires
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2011, 03:40:48 pm »
I believe my speedo is now off 5-8mph @55mph..possibly 10-13 at 70...My son followed me home on his ex500R, and I thought I was doing 65..he was doing 65 and I was quickly 1/2 mi ahead of him...can a speedo be adjusted??

No. Mechanicals cannot be adjusted. They are computed and cut based on the stock tire diameter. So any change will affect the relationship (gear ratio) betwix the two. I am changing my 18" front wheel/tire to a 17" set up and will have to buy a 17" speedo otherwise my indicated speed would be way off.

Also I've not ever seen a Connie speedo being spot on anyway. Indicated is one thing, actual is always another. And this also goes for the miles indicated AND especially if you are in Canada as the metric conversion is so screwy!!   >:D
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Re: speedo and new tires
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2011, 06:49:42 pm »
I believe my speedo is now off 5-8mph @55mph..possibly 10-13 at 70...My son followed me home on his ex500R, and I thought I was doing 65..he was doing 65 and I was quickly 1/2 mi ahead of him...can a speedo be adjusted??

No. Mechanicals cannot be adjusted. They are computed and cut based on the stock tire diameter. So any change will affect the relationship (gear ratio) betwix the two. I am changing my 18" front wheel/tire to a 17" set up and will have to buy a 17" speedo otherwise my indicated speed would be way off.

Also I've not ever seen a Connie speedo being spot on anyway. Indicated is one thing, actual is always another. And this also goes for the miles indicated AND especially if you are in Canada as the metric conversion is so screwy!!   >:D

Not only are the indicated versus actual not the same, but I dont think the speedo and the odo are in sync. I think my speedo / odo are aprox 2.5% off from each other.  When I ran wing tires my odo was pretty much spot on, but my speedo was slow. WA State patrol has confirmed this.  GPS too.  Now days with the 110/80 tire my speedo is very close. GPS confirms. And I use 4% for the odo correction when calulating my mileage. Just seems to be what it works out to. Both by GPS and insanely plotting every little turn in Streets and Trips, with 10 million way points.  The odo just does not work out to be that close.
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« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2011, 11:22:18 pm »
RM ATV is taking the tires back, and after earlier today, I could not be more happy!!!

ALL is do is commute, wet and dry , interstate & HWY, no twisty except for a round-a-bout or entrance/exit ramp to the interstate.

I want to stay with the WING size, and they have the E3's combo at a good price. Or the Storm Azzaro combo. Based on my riding, what recommend?  :motonoises:

ALSO,  I found a 150 that has the weight requirements I want. From a riding standpoint, does the 150 or 160 do more fore comfort/stability if it were the same tire??
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Re: Went and "winged" the Connie
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2011, 01:08:58 am »
The Avon Storm/Azzaro combo will give you sportier handling and better grip wet or dry at the expense of tire mileage. The E3's will give you somewhat slower handling characteristics, good to very good grip wet or dry and very acceptable tire mileage.  My only complaint with the E3's is that the front tire howls when it's banked into turns. First time I heard it I thought my front wheel bearings were going.
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Re: speedo and new tires
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2011, 01:16:06 am »
I believe my speedo is now off 5-8mph @55mph..possibly 10-13 at 70...My son followed me home on his ex500R, and I thought I was doing 65..he was doing 65 and I was quickly 1/2 mi ahead of him...can a speedo be adjusted??

No. Mechanicals cannot be adjusted. They are computed and cut based on the stock tire diameter. So any change will affect the relationship (gear ratio) betwix the two. I am changing my 18" front wheel/tire to a 17" set up and will have to buy a 17" speedo otherwise my indicated speed would be way off.

Also I've not ever seen a Connie speedo being spot on anyway. Indicated is one thing, actual is always another. And this also goes for the miles indicated AND especially if you are in Canada as the metric conversion is so screwy!!   >:D

My stock Concours speedo was spot on accurate. I checked it many, many times and it is the first motorcycle I've owned that was so accurate. Once I went to the ZRX front end, the speedo is now exactly 5% fast so if I'm indicating 70 mph, I'm actually doing about 66-67 mph. I would assume the odometer is also similarly affected although I have not checked the accuracy of that. I don't mind, all of the good things that go along with the Rex front end make it definitely worth it (in the mouse nuts category).

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Re: Went and "winged" the Connie
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2011, 02:15:29 am »
I have used Perelli's on my car, but never a bike...anyone have any feedback on Perelli???  Looking at the Sport Demons..rated for ST, Bandit 1250, FJR, etc...

Well, went with Venoms in the front & rear in Wang size tires. Be here on the 5th, can't wait.  But has too.  :'(
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Re: Went and "winged" the Connie
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2012, 12:52:01 am »
Well, tires came in a day early!!!  Immediately took the front off and put the Avon front on..HUGE change...also, the more I look at it, the Duro 130 looks like a multi tire...for front or rear...That is not in the site...but the molding makes it look that way. Swapping the rear on Friday.
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Re: Went and "winged" the Connie
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2012, 12:10:31 am »
Enjoy your new 'wings'.  Love having them on mine. Second rear is on, second front is in the garage ready for installation.  Rear tire: 13,000 miles and done in by two scraps of metal, front 15,000 miles and still has 1 mm of tread depth to go before minimum threshold is reached. Rode N. Georgia earlier this week just after a rain and they were confidence-inspiring.
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Re: Went and "winged" the Connie
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2012, 05:14:17 am »
Thanks...if i can get this front brake issue solved, I'd be able to enjoy.
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Re: Went and "winged" the Connie
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2012, 03:03:03 am »
If you use compressed air from a compressor that has a tank, the air gets pumped up to 125 psig or so and then cools down to ambient temperature.  This causes the dew point to lower and most of the moisture condenses out of the air.  Drain the tank occasionally to get rid of the water. Then when you inflate your tires to 40 psig the dew point is higher than it was in the tank and what moisture that may be left in the air stays as a gas.  Using air from these cheap compressors at most gas stations these days that do not have a tank will put moisture in your tires.

Bottled nitrogen probably has no or close to no moisture in the gas.

As far as oxidizing, I've never seen a corroded rim on the inside or any evidence of a tire oxidizing on the inside.  They always look new inside, rim and tires. Therefore, my conclusion is that nitrogen use in passenger car or motorcycle tires is a waste of money and almost 100% hype.

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Tire pressure conformation
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2012, 09:20:46 pm »
I know we all preach f-38/r-40psi.

On the Wing size tires, they rate 50psi cold. So, dumb question..for wing side tires is it: f-48/r-50psi??

Just checking!  :-[
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Re: Went and "winged" the Connie
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2012, 01:13:27 pm »
What I preach is whats listed on the side of the tire, my Metzeler 880's list 42PSI cold and thats my max.  I've never heard of 50 PSI, what make of tire are you running?
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Re: Went and "winged" the Connie
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2012, 08:39:56 pm »
Avon Venom, both Wing size tires...
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Re: Went and "winged" the Connie
« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2012, 12:03:34 am »
It's been a few years but I bought a used 1983 Yamaha Virago 750 that had the cheap Cheng Shin tires on it.  Not knowing any better, I rode it with those tires.  Then the rain began and those tires don't grip in the rain.  Long story short, I crashed the bike when I applied the rear brakes and broke my left ankle.  I won't ride a bike with non-grippy tires any more. I learned my lesson.

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Re: Tire pressure conformation
« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2012, 02:19:43 am »
I know we all preach f-38/r-40psi.

On the Wing size tires, they rate 50psi cold. So, dumb question..for wing side tires is it: f-48/r-50psi??

Just checking!  :-[
The C-10 is a bit lighter than a Wang, I would try 42/44 single rider,  heavy load and or high speed maybe 46/48.

I have the stock size venom on the rear, running 46 normal, probably go to 50 loaded down.  Seems to work fine, but it only has about 1000 miles on it, my first time with that tire.
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Re: Went and "winged" the Connie
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2012, 03:02:45 am »
When in doubt, go to the source. Avon Tyres has a great website with lots of good tire info:

http://www.avonmoto.com/downloads

The attached tire pressure chart is one item found there.
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Re: Went and "winged" the Connie
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2012, 05:09:31 am »
Thanks VT, I found what I needed, I am a bit heavier than 175lbs, I am going to call the # listed for "custom" pressure recommendations on Mon.
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Re: Went and "winged" the Connie
« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2012, 01:08:29 pm »
If you use dried air to inflate the tires, that's all you need. Install one of these http://www.jtdryers.com/Order_Now.html?gclid=CNv5xceZ0q0CFUbCKgod1BWxkw on your compressor, you're good to go.
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