The problem is these new Japanese "sport tourers" aren't flagships, but rather sport tourer-lite bikes. The industry bequeathed the "sport tourer" moniker on these 900-1100cc poseurs with chain drive, flashy displays, and saddlebags as optional equipment and the moto press drank the Kool Aid. But while these bikes rival and in some cases exceed the price of a Connie they don't offer near the sport touring value.Agreed in no way should we feel Sad, typical Japanese long long long platform life with a few updates along the way. They have had there new flagships sport touring bikes out for a few years now.
Of course not - the Concours’s legacy has only just begun. Look at all the C-10’s now being rescued, not to mention the new crowd of C-14 owners coming down the pike from retiring riders handing over the keys to a family member or selling.Does COG end next year?
Agreed it's all marketing monikers and the press and the OEM marketing work together. I used the wrong Moniker when referring to the new crop of Flagship Bikes. there is a difference between "Sport Touring" and "Sport Tourer" and your comment made me realize my writing error.The problem is these new Japanese "sport tourers" aren't flagships, but rather sport tourer-lite bikes. The industry bequeathed the "sport tourer" moniker on these 900-1100cc poseurs with chain drive, flashy displays, and saddlebags as optional equipment and the moto press drank the Kool Aid. But while these bikes rival and in some cases exceed the price of a Connie they don't offer near the sport touring value.
The FJR has also been discontinued in Europe.I wonder whether the FJR will survive? Over the last 5-6 years it's added some tech the Connie didn't while not going crazy with the latest gizmos, which kept it still somewhat close in cost to the Connie. Maybe it found a tech/value sweet spot that will keep it relevant for at least a few more years.
There nice bikes but prices are up there extremely high tech with adaptive cruise control and adaptive headlamps, some people want that and make the paymentMy buddy met me at the national with his new 2022 bmw k1600gt... every bell and whistle. But at 30 large!!!! I told him he's crazy. Im waiting for his first repair/service bill....lol
Doing that with my VRod, purchased a bunch of spare parts including an complete engine rebuild kit.If you intend to keep yours long-term, I'd look into buying all the model-specific service consumables (e.g., valve inspection gasket/seal kits, final drive seals, O rings, fuel pump service items, etc) you anticipate needing for the period of time you wish to keep the bike. If it's a very commonly used part across many late model lines, I wouldn't be as concerned about squirreling stuff away.
I've been doing this with my Valkyries for a number of years now. There are two of three different models (Tourer and Interstate) in my garage and one day I'd like to find one of the last year Standards to reprise a custom I built for an old, dear acquaintance a while back. Similarly, I have 1ea Gen1 and Gen2 C14 in the collection, and want a black Gen3 to build into another summer touring mount. Thus, it won't terribly break the bank to have a common spare water pump or whatnot in the stash "just in case".
I saw that GT 1600 sitting in the parking lot. Man, that was really nice. I was wondering what he paid for it. I imagine you need to set aside a couple grand a year (if not more) for maintenance at over $200 an hour labor. But boy, it sure looked sharp.My buddy met me at the national with his new 2022 bmw k1600gt... every bell and whistle. But at 30 large!!!! I told him he's crazy. Im waiting for his first repair/service bill....lol
IMNSHO, the two biggest faux pas committed by The Motor Company were the mis-marketing and subsequent cessation of the Revolution engined product line, and the introduction of the Livewire concept.Doing that with my VRod, purchased a bunch of spare parts including an complete engine rebuild kit.
First, the Nova Project of the late 70s then which grew into the VR1000 superbike project and the engine was slotted for a Buell then they pulled it from Buell. When the VRSCA was introduced in 2002 it was all the rage with magazines both for the Porsche technology, engine running for 500 hours on the Düsseldorf Test, Frame tubing bent by water flow, Paint, Fit, and finish above anything they built before.IMNSHO, the two biggest faux pas committed by The Motor Company were the mis-marketing and subsequent cessation of the Revolution engined product line, and the introduction of the Livewire concept.
Runners-up were killing off Buell (especially the 1125) and the removal of the FXRS model line. The latter was replaced by the Dyna, and that thing handles like an absolute pig.
The younger crowd wants something that ain't our grandfather's Harley - and they could have had a couple great sport-touring platforms from the Buell and Revolution sides of the house. Alas, not to be - but I can always find a trendy T-shirt or halter top for the ol' lady at theirdealershipsboutiques.
Asking because I just do not know the answer: How reliable of an indicator is this? Does Kawasaki ever formally announce they are discontinuing a model, or does it just not show up on a dealer order sheet? I assume you work in a dealership to have been able to see this.2018 the Concours was discontinued in major markets! But continued to be sold in Latin America, Canada, USA.
I just checked and it's not in The Kawasaki Dealer order sheet for 2023
The Concours has been in my Opinion on life Support in the North American market, very rare that OEMs make announcements on discontinued products in my experience they leave it off the order sheet and information that’s sent out to journalists and Industry players. If your worried about parts don’t be the Japanese do very well supporting machines with long life cyclesAsking because I just do not know the answer: How reliable of an indicator is this? Does Kawasaki ever formally announce they are discontinuing a model, or does it just not show up on a dealer order sheet? I assume you work in a dealership to have been able to see this.
2020 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - POWER TRAIN:MANUAL TRANSMISSIONProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2017-2020 K 1600 GT and 2018-2020 K 1600 GTL and K 1600 B motorcycles. Certain transmission parts may not have been produced to the appropriate hardness level. This could affect the function of the transmission, possibly causing double engagement of two gears and/or the damage of transmission parts. Recall Details2020 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - SUSPENSION:REARProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2019-2020 K1600 GT, K1600 GTL, and K1600 B motorcycles. The link strut connecting the rear suspension to the frame may have insufficient strength, which can cause the link strut to become damaged. Recall Details2019 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - SUSPENSION:REARProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2019-2020 K1600 GT, K1600 GTL, and K1600 B motorcycles. The link strut connecting the rear suspension to the frame may have insufficient strength, which can cause the link strut to become damaged. Recall Details2019 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - POWER TRAIN:MANUAL TRANSMISSIONProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2017-2020 K 1600 GT and 2018-2020 K 1600 GTL and K 1600 B motorcycles. Certain transmission parts may not have been produced to the appropriate hardness level. This could affect the function of the transmission, possibly causing double engagement of two gears and/or the damage of transmission parts. Recall Details2018 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - POWER TRAIN:MANUAL TRANSMISSIONProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2017-2020 K 1600 GT and 2018-2020 K 1600 GTL and K 1600 B motorcycles. Certain transmission parts may not have been produced to the appropriate hardness level. This could affect the function of the transmission, possibly causing double engagement of two gears and/or the damage of transmission parts. Recall Details2014 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMPProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2011-2014 S 1000 RR/R/ HP4, R 1200 GS/GS Adventure/R/RT, K 1300 S, K 1600 GT/GTL/GTL Exclusive and 2014 R nine T motorcycles. The fuel pump, and auxiliary fuel pump in certain models, may crack and leak fuel during vehicle operation. Recall Details2013 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMPProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2011-2014 S 1000 RR/R/ HP4, R 1200 GS/GS Adventure/R/RT, K 1300 S, K 1600 GT/GTL/GTL Exclusive and 2014 R nine T motorcycles. The fuel pump, and auxiliary fuel pump in certain models, may crack and leak fuel during vehicle operation. Recall Details2012 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMPProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2009-2011 K1300 (S, GT), 2010-2011 S1000 RR, 2005-2011 R1200 (GS, GS Adventure, R, RT, S, ST), 2006-2010 HP2 (Enduro, Megamoto, Sport), 2005-2008 K1200 (R, R Sport, S, GT), and 2012 K1600 (GT, GTL) motorcycles that were repaired under recall 13V-617 with the support ring remedy and where the fuel pump was not replaced at a later date. This recall involves the fuel pump, and also the auxiliary fuel pump as applicable. The affected motorcycles have a fuel pump flange that may crack, possibly resulting in a fuel leak while the engine is running. Recall Details2012 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMPProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2011-2014 S 1000 RR/R/ HP4, R 1200 GS/GS Adventure/R/RT, K 1300 S, K 1600 GT/GTL/GTL Exclusive and 2014 R nine T motorcycles. The fuel pump, and auxiliary fuel pump in certain models, may crack and leak fuel during vehicle operation. Recall Details2012 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - VEHICLE SPEED CONTROLProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain model year 2012 K1600 GT and K1600 GTL motorcycles. In certain riding conditions, an incorrect throttle valve control signal may be received by the engine control unit, limiting the engine speed. Recall Details2012 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:SOFTWAREProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain model year 2012 K1600 GT and K1600 GTL motorcycles. In certain riding conditions, an incorrect throttle valve control signal may be received by the engine control unit, limiting the engine speed. Recall Details2012 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - ENGINEProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain model year 2012 K1600 GT and K1600 GTL motorcycles. In certain riding conditions, an incorrect throttle valve control signal may be received by the engine control unit, limiting the engine speed. Recall Details2012 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMPProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain model year 2005-2011 model year R-model motorcycles, model year 2005-2012 K-model motorcycles, model year 2010-2011 S 1000 model motorcycles, and model year 2006-2010 HP2 motorcycles. In the affected motorcycles, the fuel pump flange (and the auxiliary fuel pump flange if equipped) could develop cracks and leak fuel. Recall Details2011 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMPProblem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2011-2014 S 1000 RR/R/ HP4, R 1200 GS/GS Adventure/R/RT, K 1300 S, K 1600 GT/GTL/GTL Exclusive and 2014 R nine T motorcycles. The fuel pump, and auxiliary fuel pump in certain models, may crack and leak fuel during vehicle operation. Recall Details |
Anything can happen from now until the November EICMA show that is where OEMs show there new replacement models and standing line up to the industry. No I do not work for a dealer, my company creates, develops the diagnostic and repair software along with electronic parts catalog for the OEMs and the Concours is missing for model year 23Asking because I just do not know the answer: How reliable of an indicator is this? Does Kawasaki ever formally announce they are discontinuing a model, or does it just not show up on a dealer order sheet? I assume you work in a dealership to have been able to see this.
Not worried about parts at this point, more concerned with accuracy of the report. Is it set in concrete based on factual data, or is there still a chance we may see a 2023 model?
Like the way you think!Well, I just completed a survey from Kawasaki about my new C-14, and they wanted to know all about how I felt concerning every detail on the bike, what I thought before I bought it, after I bought it, what else I looked at, what I liked about the other bikes, what I disliked about the C-14, the price, motor, trans, frame, ride, passenger, brakes, etc.... Oh, and they kinda asked me about the KIPASS, like, you know, what I thought about it. I gave a very fair and balanced answer about that piece of S**T, I swear, I used no cuss words. The C-14 may not be in the 2023 catalogue and they may not make it next year, but I would think they are looking to fill this niche with something, just not our C-14 as we know it, because if they were not going to replace it, why worry about what people who bought one think about it?
That fleet showed up at Mid-Ohio Vintage Days in 2008. I rode. I was hooked. As was my wife at the time (now ex); she alternated between my '08 and '12 when we went on rides together.We will see.
2006 was the last model year of the ZG1000. The ZG1400 was introduced summer 2007 as an early 2008 model year.
Maybe they will surprise us and bring a fleet of bikes to a future national rally like they did in 2007. Hmmm... 2024 is the 35th anniversary of COG.
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<snip> The C-14 may not be in the 2023 catalogue and they may not make it next year, but I would think they are looking to fill this niche with something, just not our C-14 as we know it, because if they were not going to replace it, why worry about what people who bought one think about it?
Did you mention the seat?Well, I just completed a survey from Kawasaki about my new C-14, and they wanted to know all about how I felt concerning every detail on the bike, what I thought before I bought it, after I bought it, what else I looked at, what I liked about the other bikes, what I disliked about the C-14, the price, motor, trans, frame, ride, passenger, brakes, etc.... Oh, and they kinda asked me about the KIPASS, like, you know, what I thought about it. I gave a very fair and balanced answer about that piece of S**T, I swear, I used no cuss words. The C-14 may not be in the 2023 catalogue and they may not make it next year, but I would think they are looking to fill this niche with something, just not our C-14 as we know it, because if they were not going to replace it, why worry about what people who bought one think about it?
Thanks for posting. I had the K 1600 on my shortlist of next possible bikes, but not anymore!One of my customers had a GT1600 and had a few problems, one of them was 6 the gear was known for exploding so they told him not to use it and replacement parts were not available?
BMW K 1600 GT, GLT & B Motorcycle Recall: Transmission Issues
BMW of North America is recalling 4,672 of its K 1600 GT sport-touring motorcycles, and 2018-2020 K 1600 GTL and K 1600 B models due to transmission issues.ultimatemotorcycling.com
2020 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - POWER TRAIN:MANUAL TRANSMISSION
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2017-2020 K 1600 GT and 2018-2020 K 1600 GTL and K 1600 B motorcycles. Certain transmission parts may not have been produced to the appropriate hardness level. This could affect the function of the transmission, possibly causing double engagement of two gears and/or the damage of transmission parts. Recall Details
2020 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - SUSPENSION:REAR
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2019-2020 K1600 GT, K1600 GTL, and K1600 B motorcycles. The link strut connecting the rear suspension to the frame may have insufficient strength, which can cause the link strut to become damaged. Recall Details
2019 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - SUSPENSION:REAR
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2019-2020 K1600 GT, K1600 GTL, and K1600 B motorcycles. The link strut connecting the rear suspension to the frame may have insufficient strength, which can cause the link strut to become damaged. Recall Details
2019 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - POWER TRAIN:MANUAL TRANSMISSION
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2017-2020 K 1600 GT and 2018-2020 K 1600 GTL and K 1600 B motorcycles. Certain transmission parts may not have been produced to the appropriate hardness level. This could affect the function of the transmission, possibly causing double engagement of two gears and/or the damage of transmission parts. Recall Details
2018 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - POWER TRAIN:MANUAL TRANSMISSION
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2017-2020 K 1600 GT and 2018-2020 K 1600 GTL and K 1600 B motorcycles. Certain transmission parts may not have been produced to the appropriate hardness level. This could affect the function of the transmission, possibly causing double engagement of two gears and/or the damage of transmission parts. Recall Details
2014 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMP
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2011-2014 S 1000 RR/R/ HP4, R 1200 GS/GS Adventure/R/RT, K 1300 S, K 1600 GT/GTL/GTL Exclusive and 2014 R nine T motorcycles. The fuel pump, and auxiliary fuel pump in certain models, may crack and leak fuel during vehicle operation. Recall Details
2013 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMP
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2011-2014 S 1000 RR/R/ HP4, R 1200 GS/GS Adventure/R/RT, K 1300 S, K 1600 GT/GTL/GTL Exclusive and 2014 R nine T motorcycles. The fuel pump, and auxiliary fuel pump in certain models, may crack and leak fuel during vehicle operation. Recall Details
2012 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMP
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2009-2011 K1300 (S, GT), 2010-2011 S1000 RR, 2005-2011 R1200 (GS, GS Adventure, R, RT, S, ST), 2006-2010 HP2 (Enduro, Megamoto, Sport), 2005-2008 K1200 (R, R Sport, S, GT), and 2012 K1600 (GT, GTL) motorcycles that were repaired under recall 13V-617 with the support ring remedy and where the fuel pump was not replaced at a later date. This recall involves the fuel pump, and also the auxiliary fuel pump as applicable. The affected motorcycles have a fuel pump flange that may crack, possibly resulting in a fuel leak while the engine is running. Recall Details
2012 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMP
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2011-2014 S 1000 RR/R/ HP4, R 1200 GS/GS Adventure/R/RT, K 1300 S, K 1600 GT/GTL/GTL Exclusive and 2014 R nine T motorcycles. The fuel pump, and auxiliary fuel pump in certain models, may crack and leak fuel during vehicle operation. Recall Details
2012 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain model year 2012 K1600 GT and K1600 GTL motorcycles. In certain riding conditions, an incorrect throttle valve control signal may be received by the engine control unit, limiting the engine speed. Recall Details
2012 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:SOFTWARE
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain model year 2012 K1600 GT and K1600 GTL motorcycles. In certain riding conditions, an incorrect throttle valve control signal may be received by the engine control unit, limiting the engine speed. Recall Details
2012 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - ENGINE
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain model year 2012 K1600 GT and K1600 GTL motorcycles. In certain riding conditions, an incorrect throttle valve control signal may be received by the engine control unit, limiting the engine speed. Recall Details
2012 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMP
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain model year 2005-2011 model year R-model motorcycles, model year 2005-2012 K-model motorcycles, model year 2010-2011 S 1000 model motorcycles, and model year 2006-2010 HP2 motorcycles. In the affected motorcycles, the fuel pump flange (and the auxiliary fuel pump flange if equipped) could develop cracks and leak fuel. Recall Details
2011 BMW K 1600 GTL Recall - FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINEELIVERY:FUEL PUMP
Problem: BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2011-2014 S 1000 RR/R/ HP4, R 1200 GS/GS Adventure/R/RT, K 1300 S, K 1600 GT/GTL/GTL Exclusive and 2014 R nine T motorcycles. The fuel pump, and auxiliary fuel pump in certain models, may crack and leak fuel during vehicle operation. Recall Details
Tell us how you really feel about KIPASS.......lol. I havent had mine long enough to not like it, but time will tell. Everything else you stated I have altready done minus cruise.They asked me everything, even my weight,age,size,and about my passengers. Yes, I told them that virtually every single person that bought a C-14, replaces the seat and windshield, lowers the pegs, raises the bars,adds cruise control, and detests the KIPASS with every fiber of their being. I said I would pay $500 more for the bike if a model was offered without KIPASS and if I could safely remove it, I would rip it off the bike and throw it off the tallest building in Ohio into the deepest lake with a 20lb cement weight on it after I crushed it with a steam roller and burned it with an acetelyne torch until it was unrecognizable by any human so it could not be replicated. Of course there are exceptions to those who may enjoy the KIPASS, a minority at best if it was possible to find this out. I did my best to eradicate this evil thing thrust upon us, mild mannered bike riders who crave simplicity and logical innovation.
Nice bike! I assume its a crossplane? I scanned the brochure and didn't see a mention. I had a 12 R1 with the crossplane engine. I miss it :-(Probably going to keep the 14 for a while but leaning towards a Yamaha Tracer
115Hp 460 lbs. Vs 700lbs to go on the back of RV or trailer I'll deal with the 460 any day VS 700, and Mom can drive it
she has long legs 29.5 but the 14 is way too heavy even though she rides a Fat Boy but a much lower bike.
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I've had zero issues with either of mine.They asked me everything, even my weight,age,size,and about my passengers. Yes, I told them that virtually every single person that bought a C-14, replaces the seat and windshield, lowers the pegs, raises the bars,adds cruise control, and detests the KIPASS with every fiber of their being. I said I would pay $500 more for the bike if a model was offered without KIPASS and if I could safely remove it, I would rip it off the bike and throw it off the tallest building in Ohio into the deepest lake with a 20lb cement weight on it after I crushed it with a steam roller and burned it with an acetelyne torch until it was unrecognizable by any human so it could not be replicated. Of course there are exceptions to those who may enjoy the KIPASS, a minority at best if it was possible to find this out. I did my best to eradicate this evil thing thrust upon us, mild mannered bike riders who crave simplicity and logical innovation.
What did you do with the radio box, fender support, handlebar switches and all the other LE-specific stuff?After all the work I performed on mine and being a low mileage Police Enforcer converted back to a civilian my Plan is to keep mine, Yes it's heavy but I have other bikes much more nimble and lighter I use daily to commute to the office.
Heavy is relative; compared to the Road Glide Special I came off of, the Connie is as light as a feather lol.After all the work I performed on mine and being a low mileage Police Enforcer converted back to a civilian my Plan is to keep mine, Yes it's heavy but I have other bikes much more nimble and lighter I use daily to commute to the office.
Of course, I want the Next Generation Concours if it's built on the H2 SX platform being Supercharged and lighter than 680 pounds but for today
Connie the Orca is a perfect Sport "Touring" bike to Escape up into the Mountains for weekends with the wife and what little we rode it she was still extremely happy out back after replacing the Corbin cop seat and replacing it with an eBay stock OEM seat that had me sliding towards the tank and then to what I feel is perfect ZX14 seat with no complaints. Besides, starting basic maintenance in march it sat being worked on for what seemed like forever whenever I look at this picture to remind myself life is too short to bitch so now we plan to ride the wheels off of it.
Before this bike, my weekend getaway ride was the 2004 Ducati ST4S Sport "tourer" that had over 100 thousand trouble-free miles probably cause I did the maintenance and repairs and truly regret selling it cause we had a lot of history and parts were getting scarce and costing stupid Money cause that's what greedy people do!
Hope to meet up with some of you in the future
This is the second one purchased from the same dealer the first split the frame but that had to do with me playing with lots of nitrous! So from what I remember both were from the same Town in SC and sat at the dealer's storage facility since 2015 due to litigation when the L-E department refused acceptance after Kawasaki engineers performed ( Not The Dealer ) a major recall of rebuilding the entire electrical system.What did you do with the radio box, fender support, handlebar switches and all the other LE-specific stuff?
I went the other way with my '12: Kicked my lady off the rear seat and rebuilt the thing into a high-speed pursuit motorcycle, with which I can pursue two of my favorite hobbies - motorcycling and ham radio.
Pics will be forthcoming when I tidy things up a bit more. Yesterday I got the rear lights wired and tested, along with some other items.
Yea they were close to 880 wet Harley is a big believer in making it out of steelHeavy is relative; compared to the Road Glide Special I came off of, the Connie is as light as a feather lol.
I have had an email exchange with the owner of that site regarding his involvement with the C14P, the subsequent recall and re-engineering of the Enforcer concept. He's not electrical, though I am (having done the EE thing professionally for over 40 years) but his insight into the recall jibed exactly with my reverse-engineering of the failure mode. The missing piece of the puzzle: All the LE-spec accessory wiring was originally run under the tank - including power leads. Add vibration and chafing...you get shorts. A short of the main power leads to the secondary battery system will definitely cause a main fuse failure.This is the second one purchased from the same dealer the first split the frame but that had to do with me playing with lots of nitrous! So from what I remember both were from the same Town in SC and sat at the dealer's storage facility since 2015 due to litigation when the L-E department refused acceptance after Kawasaki engineers performed ( Not The Dealer ) a major recall of rebuilding the entire electrical system.
I purchased them with a new harness to run two batteries but the police equipment like the lights and bars, radio box the cut-up fairings were all replaced with brand new non-L-E Kawasaki parts, the only Enforcer parts left on the bike are the switches and they go with the new installed Harness I already looked into removing then but the connectors and pin-outs are different and the Heli Horizon steer like a wet noodle handlebar have the DIN connectors built into them for the radar gun charger that I will use for my heated gear.
I believe that cop stuff was returned to the town of Myrtle beach but will make a phone call for you since I work with the dealer on projects related to work and we have a good relationship.
here is a link to the story on the major recall
A short thread bump:I believe that cop stuff was returned to the town of Myrtle beach but will make a phone call for you since I work with the dealer on projects related to work and we have a good relationship.
First of all, Mr been there done that I said I'm keeping the 2011 C14 that I've had for 11 years... I've got a good $6,000. in farkles I will never recover, don't need the little money I would get for it and We enjoy the big girl, my Lady likes speed and noise like I said she owns a Fat Bob for 15 years.
She is a tough little girl from South Boston.
I need a bike to take RVing I'm 68 years young and want to spend 3 to 4 months a year on the road and a 700 lb bike is stupid heavy to put on and off and my lady can't drive it she only weighs 100 lbs, she loves the rear seat but when out of town I want something SHE can drive also,
Your 2019 Tracer is WAY different than a 2022 Tracer GT I will buy, new seats I don't have a JUNK problem, I've had a Corban for over 10 years on my 14 because people complained about the SAME problem on the C14,
your old second-generation VS third generation
Well, I just completed a survey from Kawasaki about my new C-14, and they wanted to know all about how I felt concerning every detail on the bike, what I thought before I bought it, after I bought it, what else I looked at, what I liked about the other bikes, what I disliked about the C-14, the price, motor, trans, frame, ride, passenger, brakes, etc.... Oh, and they kinda asked me about the KIPASS, like, you know, what I thought about it. I gave a very fair and balanced answer about that piece of S**T, I swear, I used no cuss words. The C-14 may not be in the 2023 catalogue and they may not make it next year, but I would think they are looking to fill this niche with something, just not our C-14 as we know it, because if they were not going to replace it, why worry about what people who bought one think about it?
I received and took the survey as well and have to say it was very lengthy in nature. I sort of wondered why it was as time consuming after the 4-5th page I filled out. Would make sense what's being said about something in the works.... Someone surely put work into that survey.That tells me something is in the works. I was one of those polled by Kaw back in 05 or 06 IIRC. I was already a COG member and we were already speculating on the forum... would Kawasaki put the zrx12 engine in a new Concours? What about a header and no dual exhaust like on the c-10? (I liked that idea). It was awhile before the c14 debutted, but it definitely took cues from some of the q's we were polled about. If this is SOP for Kaw... something new IS in the works.
Steve
I hope so Steve. I just decided against buying a 2022 BMW R1250RT a couple of days ago, partially based on this thread. I am going to wait until Nov/Dec to see if Kaw comes out with a new Supercharged full electronics packaged next gen Concours. If they do I will buy it right then and there. If not, I will probably place an order for a 2023 RT. I bleed Kawasaki green, so I am sure hoping they don't let me down.That tells me something is in the works. I was one of those polled by Kaw back in 05 or 06 IIRC. I was already a COG member and we were already speculating on the forum... would Kawasaki put the zrx12 engine in a new Concours? What about a header and no dual exhaust like on the c-10? (I liked that idea). It was awhile before the c14 debutted, but it definitely took cues from some of the q's we were polled about. If this is SOP for Kaw... something new IS in the works.
Steve
Maybe the next Concours will be a Hybrid?2018 the Concours was discontinued in major markets! But continued to be sold in Latin America, Canada, USA.
I just checked and it's not in The Kawasaki Dealer order sheet for 2023
Maybe the next Concours will be a Hybrid?
Then Harley it is for a touring mount.More likely, there won't be a "next" Concours.
Is it official that Honda is completely dropping the Gold Wing?Then Harley it is for a touring mount.
Specifically, Evo and Twin Cam era stuff. I can open up a JP Cycles, V-Twin or any one of a number of similar aftermarket supply catalogs and source a complete rolling chassis - engine, transmission, suspension, you name it. A trip to the area swap meets will net me all the bodywork I can't get through the catalogs (i.e., OEM saddlebags, fairing and lowers, Tour Pak) along with the required electrical goodies.
I can build a neat, reliable 95" Evo-motored or 103" Twin Cam Road King this way. Add a quick detach Tour Pak/backrest mount, a Memphis Bat Wing, Bob Dron or Hoppe fairing and a set of OEM lowers for the engine guards for cooler weather and the result is a three (possibly four, if everything is powdercoated) season touring mount. It can easily be reconfigured for the ride at hand.
Given the number of manufacturers looking to drop large-displacement motorcycles from their lineups (e.g., the GL1800) I think you'll see a resurgence of the roll-your-own crowd. Too bad the industry had to specialize so much and we have no "UJM" this go-around.
I'm interested to know as wellIs it official that Honda is completely dropping the Gold Wing?
I haven't found any source for that. I HAVE read that they will stop U.S. production of the Gold Wing and that they would transfer all Gold Wing production to Japan.
Anybody? Anybody?
Anybody have an online link to more recent info concerning Gold Wing production or total cessation of same?
Then Harley it is for a touring mount.
Specifically, Evo and Twin Cam era stuff. I can open up a JP Cycles, V-Twin or any one of a number of similar aftermarket supply catalogs and source a complete rolling chassis - engine, transmission, suspension, you name it. A trip to the area swap meets will net me all the bodywork I can't get through the catalogs (i.e., OEM saddlebags, fairing and lowers, Tour Pak) along with the required electrical goodies.
I can build a neat, reliable 95" Evo-motored or 103" Twin Cam Road King this way. Add a quick detach Tour Pak/backrest mount, a Memphis Bat Wing, Bob Dron or Hoppe fairing and a set of OEM lowers for the engine guards for cooler weather and the result is a three (possibly four, if everything is powdercoated) season touring mount. It can easily be reconfigured for the ride at hand.
Given the number of manufacturers looking to drop large-displacement motorcycles from their lineups (e.g., the GL1800) I think you'll see a resurgence of the roll-your-own crowd. Too bad the industry had to specialize so much and we have no "UJM" this go-around.
Say WHAT?GWRRA is shutting down this October.
Good news and very sad news .The Gold Wing is not being cancelled. It appears Honda is only dropping the Trunkless Gold Wing from the Gold Wing lineup.
GWRRA is shutting down this October.
Rumor around here, Canada, is that the standard shift version of the Goldwing is done. Apparently due to emission standards (worldwide). The DCT can be programmed to shift quicker and the redline dropped, in order to meet the new standards. Or so the story goes.Is it official that Honda is completely dropping the Gold Wing?
I haven't found any source for that. I HAVE read that they will stop U.S. production of the Gold Wing and that they would transfer all Gold Wing production to Japan.
Anybody? Anybody?
Anybody have an online link to more recent info concerning Gold Wing production or total cessation of same?
"Emotion standards"?Thanks Viper. You might want to read your post again.
I guess I have not heard it put that way before."Emotion standards"?
He's spot-on. Most of this nonsense is being driven by feels, not reality.
Even just the range without the capabilities.An all-electric Connie with similar range and capabilities would weigh...I dunno, maybe 1000+ lbs?
I can see that happening. Just think, with the right configuration, you pull into a charging station, not to recharge, but to swap battery packs that are already charged. Pull them off like saddle bags and swap in a charged set. Keep rolling. The discharged bags are slapped onto the charger for the next rider.An all-electric Connie with similar range and capabilities would weigh...I dunno, maybe 1000+ lbs?
I'm not sure next-generation batteries are going to bring a lot of joy. Energy density (by weight and volume) of current batteries is over 2 orders of magnitude worse than gasoline. Companies like QuantumScape are shooting for a 50 percent improvement and production is still a long way off. Teslas most recent battery actually took a step backward in energy density in order to improve charge-rate. Cars and trucks can deal with the massive weight inefficiency of batteries better than a motorcycle can, so I'm far from convinced a compelling electric bike is in our near future.Problem 1 batteries will be way lighter and last longer charge faster in the near future, being the past owner of a ZERO bike I agree with today's technology it won't happen till the next generation of batteries appears for consumers now only in lab settings.
I've been saying the same thing for quite a while. Saw a video about wireless charging being embedded in the road across the pond. Expensive. I guess it might be plausible in big inner cities.I keep looking for a “suitcase” battery module that standardizes fast change outs. Roll in, swap batteries, roll out. Old module goes in a charging rack like lift truck batteries. Bikes use one, cars use several, trucks- different problem.
I've been saying the same thing for quite a while. Saw a video about wireless charging being embedded in the road across the pond. Expensive. I guess it might be plausible in big inner cities.