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earnest here in the GREAT STATE of TEXAS. i've just had fork springs installed on my '04. Front End feels better but i think more preload would be good. What do you guys suggest i do about my shock? Just returned from 8 days of chasing a couple of Bavarian bikes thru New Mexico. Thanks a million e
 
Are you asking about the rear shock, or front forks? If it's the rear, you can pump it up with air. Don't exceed 65 psi. Later, Charlie COG# 8048 AMA# 603377 <a href="http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee213/charliegaryrules/?action=view&current=VisitedStatesMapSmall.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee213/charliegaryrules/VisitedStatesMapSmall.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobu
 
What rate/brand springs did you put in? Did you change the fork oil? If not, you may want to change it to 15w fork oil. Preload only adjusts sag, it won't do anything for firmness, if that's what you're looking to fix. You might want to install emulators, too.
 
Rear Shock Upgrades: Step 1. $25 Murph sells a shock oil kit. Its measuring devices and 15w shock oil, with instructions on how to replace. Maintains stock shock with better dampening. Use air to adjust preload and spring level. Makes it so the dampening in the rear matches the front better. Not to mention the stock oil probably wears down over time. Step2. $150 ZZR1200 Rear Shock upgrade. I have one of these. Its a firmer ride without being too harsh. If you liked the firmness 50psi in the stock shock but thought the ride sucked, IMO this is an alternative. Will give that firmer ride w/o being too nasty. If you like the softer ride of 25-30 psi and its not too mushy for your weight, etc you might find this firm. IMO matches up to the front with 15w oil and 1.1 springs for example. Nice on the slow bumps, better brake dive control, etc but can be a bit harsher on the manhole covers. -- ZZR rear shock will be like this IMO ( well maybe not the brake dive ). Step3. $400 Murph sells a nice progressive shock. Never rode a Connie with one so cannot report. Cant be too bad if Murph is selling it. http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_97&products_id=85 Step4. $,$$$ ?? One of them really nice and expensive shocks with external adjustable everything. This will be the stuff. Expect to pay big dollars. 2003 Concours, 47K COG #6953 IBA 28004 http://mysite.verizon.net/slybones/Concours/connieMain.htm
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I will witness for the ZZR upgrade... plenty of smiles per mile in the twisties... ;p Steve K. '02 Concours COG# 6550 AMA# 965469 'No matter where you go, there you are...'
 
Thanks Bill, firmness is what i am looking for. Progressive springs oil weight unknown. i will check with my guy on Tuesday. Now, the rear on my scoot seems bouncy(out of control). i think it needs more rebound (control). Rebound dampening? New heavier weight oil is the cure, you think? Is this fix as easy as it looks? If so, i will tackle this job myself. Oh, after riding the replacement for the C10, i made a decision to keep my ZG1000 and make work properly. Suspension is where my focus is at this time. From there one of those fancy exhaust thingees. Any feedback is much appreciated. THANKS i'm out e
 
You are kidding a ZZR shock $150.00? Thanks for stepping me through to the High Buck fix. i will replace the oil fix to see "how it works," first. i weigh 200 lbs. Thanks a million e
 
Earnest, if you change the oil in the rear shock it's different than the stuff you use in the front. Murph has a kit that you can buy that includes the oil. The stuff is thinner than fork oil. If your looking for firmness play with the damping and the air pressure in the rear shock. Don't over do the air pressure because you can blow the seals. Good luck. '02 Connie COG # 6662 Dallas, Tx
 
I have the Progressive 420 shock on my bike, have had it for two years already and no complaints at all. Handles great for heavier loads. Robert Elliott Cornelia, GA COG # 7598 CDA#0293
 
My $150 for the ZZR1200 rear shock is/was for a used shock. They were roughly $125 US plus shipping. I believe it was ZZR1200 Parts dot com, that was selling them. Dont know if they still have them or if COG members cleaned then out. Quite a number of us COG members all bought ours there. You might have to look around. Prices will of course vary depending on where/who you find it from. http://zzr1200parts.com/ 2003 Concours, 47K COG #6953 IBA 28004 http://mysite.verizon.net/slybones/Concours/connieMain.htm
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if you go to zzr1200 parts dot com and click on structure parts, there are 2 links for shocks. Both say SOLD OUT. Looks like we cleaned them out. 2003 Concours, 47K COG #6953 IBA 28004 http://mysite.verizon.net/slybones/Concours/connieMain.htm
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Tricycle Thanks for the information. i would like to adjust the rebound dampening? Where can i go to get details on how to? Thanks e
 
Robert So the 420 works well. i weigh 200lbs and when traveling i am carrying, maybe 60lbs of stuff. That seems like a heavy load. Seldom do i carry a passenger. Tell me, does the 420 have dampening adjustments for rebound? i noticed my bike seemed a little out of control, (kind of bouncy) when pushed hard in tight stuff. i really appreciate the feedback. i am out e
 
The stock shock has rebound dampening adjustment.I believe thats what the push/pull lever is for. 1 is the least amount of rebound dampening and 4 is the max. If the goal is only more dampening I would try the 15wt oil kit from Murph as the first step. 2003 Concours, 47K COG #6953 IBA 28004 http://mysite.verizon.net/slybones/Concours/connieMain.htm
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The adjustment on the 420 is a little more difficult than stock. Comes with a spanner style wrench to adjust. I am carrying more weight than you listed even before going two up and haven't had a problem with the rear. Looking at changing up my front end soon. Stock is starting to wear a little up front. Did the rear early since I wasn't happy with stock, especially after I added a GIVI E52 and started loading it up. Robert Elliott Cornelia, GA COG # 7598 CDA#0293
 
I will witness for the ZZR upgrade... plenty of smiles per mile in the twisties..
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+1 on this - check my signature... and yes, you can ride a bike like that long distances. I rode an Iron Butt SS1000 on it after putting on a better seat. David in Jax, FL COG# 7898 CDA # 2002 ZZR-1200 "Magic Carpet" 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500 LC "Luxury Couch"
 
I have the 420 on mine and like it. Even 2 up it works good. I'm 230 with gear, and the wife about 130. No issues at all. Now the front still has that pogo feeling so it up for some work.
 
Slybones No doubt i should change the oil, it's old, the oil and should be discarded. So i will get the oil change kit. But for grins, i will attempt to locate the adjustments for the dampening and crank it to max from where it is set. Thanks for all of the great information. i am out. e
 
FWIW I did the shock oil change when I had my '97 Conk and the old oil was like sludge and crud. The change really helped a lot. I used Murph's kit and it was perfect. Good Luck. David in Jax, FL COG# 7898 CDA # 2002 ZZR-1200 "Magic Carpet" 2004 Suzuki Intruder 1500 LC "Luxury Couch"
 
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