He said DCT. That didn't come until the second one.This is the GL1800 I was talking about:
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Was it that one, or this one?
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I would be looking at getting the former.
-Z
He said DCT. That didn't come until the second one.This is the GL1800 I was talking about:
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Was it that one, or this one?
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I would be looking at getting the former.
-Z
He said DCT. That didn't come until the second one.
It doesn't improve with age.Duh..... Man, my reading comprehension has been pretty poor as of late....
Maybe I should go on a ride.... IF ANYONE WOULD JOIN ME!!!!
-Z
The top one with the DCT I think. Not the bagger version.

If I had $5500 right now, I'd buy a C14 for sure. I love the F6C, but I'm wanting to start moving into a bit more modern bikes. I still have Off Kilter, and I REALLY liked that Reddit post I linked on here of the guy who made a cafe racer out of a C10. I really wanna do something like that. The idea of a long distance cafe, put superbike bars and super comfy seat. Would be a HOOT. But yeah. I think the NEXT bike I'll get will be a C14, followed by a GL1800r1, then a KLR 650 and maybe a Trail 125. Then I'll be set for a LONG time.If you want something that you can afford look up a 1998 Honda Valkyrie. 100 hp smooth as butter on the highway. Mine I sold a year ago with 14 thousand on it for $5500.00 in mint condition. Duel hard bags on the back. It was beautiful.
Dean
I can't remember which state it was in, but I saw an 09 C14 with 68,000 miles for $3500 a few days ago.
The overflow tubes should have a hose on the nipple's {below the carbs} to allow fuel to run out onto the ground.
If you don't have hoses below the carbs, you need to confirm that you have overflow tubes installed.
(Put a hose on one of the nipples and blow thru the carb. If you can do it, you have overflow tubes. If you can not, you don't have the tubes).
If you have overflows and hoses installed, they should not be leaking any fuel onto the ground {unless the float valves are leaking fuel}.
NOTE: A leaking petcock "alone" does not overflow the carbs.
The combination of the petcock leaking and float valves not adjusted/sealing correctly does.
Additionally, being on the center stand is less likely to allow the fuel to overflow than setting on the side stand.
(because the bike is level)
If your smelling fuel while riding the most likely thing is the float valves not sealing properly.
Or, the petcock is dripping fuel externally.
Or; Another thing that can allow fuel smell is a diaphragm leak on the petcock.
Ride safe, Ted
Petcock replacement is just a matter of pulling the tank and removing and replacing the petcock. It might be possible with the tank on, but it's easy to remove and do it on an easily accessible bench (with lots of soft towels or something to protect the tank).Its gotta be the petcock. That entire area is kinda sticky and grimey.
Is there anything in particular I need to do when replacing the petcock? Other than draining the fuel? Are there any upgrades I can do while I'm in there? Is there a "better" or "upgraded" petcock I can get?
-Z
Petcock replacement is just a matter of pulling the tank and removing and replacing the petcock. It might be possible with the tank on, but it's easy to remove and do it on an easily accessible bench (with lots of soft towels or something to protect the tank).
You can get rebuild kits for around $30, or a brand-new OEM one for a bit over $100 from Murph. I know some people have had mixed results with rebuilds, but taking care and cleaning and polishing the sealing surfaces, and disassembling the vacuum port and checking and cleaning the little buffer plug can help. K&L is the gold standard for aftermarket kits, which Murph also sells. I've used All Balls kits on other bikes and had good results, but they don't have the stellar reputation as K&L. All Balls does cover some models that K&L doesn't.
Murph also sells a manual conversion kit that disables the vacuum shut-off and makes "Off" a true off, but then you have to remember to use it every time.
There are some articles in old Concourier issues and in Chalkdust on petcock rebuilding. That's where I learned about the hidden vacuum buffer plug.Awesome! I think I'll just order the K&L. Might as well get the best.
And also, thank you all for answering these questions; I'm asking very particular questions and getting responses so this thread can hopefully be of use to future C10 owners. Common issues that are occuring as I go.
-Z
I'll try to get a photo of mine later if I can remember. It's described on page 44 of the C10 Chalkdust booklet (it's in the member's tech section).Hidden vacuum buffer plug?
That '03 was the first Connie that started the obsession. Long gone. Those are Holeshots and really liked them. Priced a touch more these days!bowtie,
what pipes are you running on your bike?

I personally don’t like the cleanup needed and want to keep the salta off the aluminum.You know, I need to take back EVERYTHING I said about snow... throughout my whole life.... I'm starting to understand why y'all put your bikes up in the winter....
Stay safe Z!And yes. That's not slush, but STRAIGHT ice. As in I almost fell on my butt walking across it....
Ugh.
-Z
I personally don’t like the cleanup needed and want to keep the salta off the aluminum.
Stay safe Z!
Back In the late 80's when I was young, dumb...my only transportation was a kawasaki 440 Ltd cruiser. Round trip back and forth to work was 20+ miles each way on mostly 2 lane rural roads. Great for spring summer and fall riding. But our Chicagoland winters can be an adventure. I never went down in the snow, I puttered behind traffic in the tire ruts, and due to tje low seat height I used.my legs as outriggers, did i mention I was young lol. How I never hurt myself is beyond me. I.couldnt do that back then on a c10, too tall for my stubby outriggers legs...
Never ridden when there was a real risk of any ice on roads.
My brother, however, only had his CBR1000F as transportation for a couple of years, in Chicago. Yeah...he was young.
Is there anything I CAN be doing to help with keeping the fuel system clean? Or anything I should be looking out for?
And if I need to replace a leaky petcock, is there some "upgrade" or enhancement I can do? I'm pretty sure my petcock is buggered....
-Z
As a number of us know, the fuel tanks are susceptible to rust due to (assumed) improper raw metal treatment. To make matters worse, there are low pockets on each side that collect debris over time, and water. I personally went through three tanks that rusted out in those low-pocket areas on my ’86, and am on the second tank on my ’95. Both of those bikes were ridden nearly every day in my commute to work, so they didn’t sit. What I didn’t do was use due diligence in periodically flushing and cleaning out the tank(s), or use frequent doses (every month or so) of Iso-Heet (red bottle) to try and “absorb” any collected water. All three of my bike were also given the POR-15 treatment for added insurance.
The easy short answer: Add Iso-Heet to your tank on a regular basis.

Not sure I' m digging the rope though. I always have a couple good straps in my bags for unexpected stuff I may need to haul .
You're...creative and resourceful?
In most of the world's countries that would not raise any eyebrows.
For the C-10, these key blanks should work. You would have to order the Kawasaki blank, but the Ilco and Taylor should be available at your local hardware store.Quick question, so I don't start a new thread:
Where can I get key blanks for a C10? Need to copy my key for my C10 and my VN800.
Thanks!
-Z
I saw some keys at my shop last week.
Didn't think much about it at the time but was wondering why I had keys taped to a piece of paper.
Your note made me realize that they are key blanks for a Kawasaki. (I think C-10)
(If you need some blanks?) I'll be there Monday and can look.
Ride safe, Ted
My local locksmith had Ilco blanks in stock. My bike only came with one key, so I immediately had them make a copy. When I later put in a partzilla order for some other stuff, I got a Kawasaki blank and had them cut it, but the Ilco blanks was better. The locksmith had a heck of a time getting it to match, and had to file down some of it by hand. I think the current blank is a superceded part that fits a wider range of Kawasaki locks, so it isn't the best match for some. Not sure if that's the case for all Connie's, or just the wafer pattern in mine.Quick question, so I don't start a new thread:
Where can I get key blanks for a C10? Need to copy my key for my C10 and my VN800.
Thanks!
-Z
Wow, that's a failure I have not heard of!Whelp......
Those tip over bars paid for themselves last night.
I'll post some pics later, but I went to put my bike up on the centerstand, and it BROKE..... And the bike tipped away from me and rested on the edge of the curb, on the tip over bar. I was on the ground holding my bike by the other tip over bar and the footpeg, to keep it from falling off the curb. Sat like that for 5 minutes until some passerbys lifted my bike.
Fun times. At least I have a spare centerstand, but damn, dude....
-Z
Perhaps spray the inside of the tubes thoroughly with some Waxoyl or other autobody cavity corrosion protection.Paint that thing before you put it on. You be lucky Zak.
On my ZX600-C, you have to partially remove the exhaust system to access the center stand pivot bolts. On my parts bike, a previous owner apparently wanted the streamlined look of no center stand, but didn't want to do the work of dropping the exhaust, so they just sawzalled it off. There were two little dangly stubs rattling on the pivot bolts!One of the legs broke off. Specifically the leg on the throttle side.
So I went to put it up, and as I was at the zenith before the bike settled back on the centerstand, the leg twisted and broke off, and the bike tilted forward.
I park on the sidewalk in a little cutout (behind a stop sign), so the bike fell with the tip over bar on the sidewalk edge, and my right saddlebag actually over the edge, off the ground, at the level of the curb.
I'll post pics later.
Also means I gotta get the new centerstand on, and those bolts were a freaking pain.....
AAAARRRGGHHH!!!!!
-Z
Yeah, when I first got mine and saw how loose it was (12k miles, so barely worn), I checked to see if the side stand has the lock-out feature that some Harleys have, where they allow the bike to lean over a bit and the side stand moves into a notch that prevents it from pivoting back until you lift the bike up again. I'm not a big HD fan, but I always thought that was a really clever feature. I'm always paranoid about my bikes rolling forward and falling over due to the stand folding up. I usually park my bikes in 1st and roll them forward to take all the drive line slack out and then set the side stand down, so it has full engine resistance to rolling forward off the stand.Lucky the bike & you didn't get hurt.
Never heard of that before either. I have often wondered about the side stand, it has a good amount of flex in it, never worried about the center stand...
Nice for passers by to assist.
Wayne
Over the years I've heard of several instances of one of the legs breaking, but not the lever arm that I recall.First time I have heard of that.










That does look beautiful. You two are tougher than we are...97F and humid to me is stay inside weather :-(
I can take heat, but not humidity.
Just spent time with my older son and his family in Juarez MX, saw up to 103F; as long as I was in shade I was OK. Get back to Indiana and 87F with humidity makes me miserable.

Very cool. I really enjoy your dispatches from the road.
If you haven't planned to (or been asked to), I'm pretty sure your trips and writing would be well-suited for the Concourier.
That's a nice variety of bikes there!
This is what it looks when we go out to dinner to small towns near where I live:
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Haha, well done!I see a sea of Harleys, but'cha showed up on a Ninja, didn't ya.... Thump thump go the V-twins, but the wail of the inline-4 wins! They're all laid back, like to cruise, but their laid back attitude is just a ruse. They call Japanese bikes a bunch of plastic crap, but we all know they're jealous; they can't BRRRRAP!!!
Thanks for coming to my spoken word presentation.
-Z
Haha, well done!
Yes, it's bagger central around here. The most common custom bikes I see here are big-wheel baggers. At least they're more practical than the OCC-style choppers from 10-15 years ago. I find some personal amusement parking my teal and purple (with purple windshield!) Ninja amongst them. Although I do have slight anxiety about at least being cursed at, lol. The silver Concours doesn't fit in any better, but it's got a bland appearance that doesn't quite look so stark. Especially since mine's been de-badged (previous owner), so unless you study close and find the few remaining Kawasaki lettering (like on the dash clock, or upper triple cover), most people won't even know what it is.
If I had space in my garage, more time to ride, and they weren't so over-priced, I'd enjoy trying an HD too. They're definitely a unique character machine. From a technical perspective, they aren't the best for anything, but that's not really why we like the machines we do anyway; it is about the character as much as the specs. For instance, if I cared about specs, I would not be riding a Concours designed 40 years ago, with carbs, manual everything, and a digital clock as the extent of electronic rider aids and information.
If you haven't seen it, Ryan has a (per usual) compelling take on what makes the potato machines so appealing:
I see a sea of Harleys, but'cha showed up on a Ninja, didn't ya.... Thump thump go the V-twins, but the wail of the inline-4 wins! They're all laid back, like to cruise, but their laid back attitude is just a ruse. They call Japanese bikes a bunch of plastic crap, but we all know they're jealous; they can't BRRRRAP!!!
Thanks for coming to my spoken word presentation.
-Z

Yeah. That's why I specifically said the version pre-refresh. The bug eyed one. Like an 08.Don't go buy that Goldwing without a test ride. We got to ride a new one and my wife likes the C-10 better.
Generally you guys are right about V-twins, but...
You should have seen my friend Doug on his Indian Dark Horse at the Cumberlands rally.
He bought that bike so his wife would be comfortable on it, and she is. He whipped that thing pretty well with the rest of us. I was impressed.
The other 2-up bike I was shopping along with the C10 was a GL1200 Goldwing. For the kind of riding I do, the C10 was the better fit, but perhaps one day I will have a GL as well. I know my wife would swoon over armrests, haha.
Be careful with arm rests, if the roads are bad / rough the arm rest is to your shoulders like locking your arms to the hand holds.Oh yeah. But that thing is also making 122 HP and 128 lb-ft of torque. Liquid cooled overhead cam engine. I'd expect it to hang with a C10 in the hands of a capable rider. Especially with that torque number.
Yes. Maryann has a tendency to fall asleep on the return trips, lol. She'd LOVE having a full backrest with arm rests, heated seat, bubble of air.....
Hey, I'm lucky she likes to go on these rides. Her only request is comfort. And I can oblige!
-Z
Do passengers actually use the handles on the C10? At least they look useful, and very strong. I never got the point of the little loop bar at the back of sportbike seats, or even the flimsy strap across the seat of classic British bikes or UJMs. Aside from given you something to secure tail bag, I can't imagine a passenger actually using them. On my sportbikes, my riders always just held onto me.Be careful with arm rests, if the roads are bad / rough the arm rest is to your shoulders like locking your arms to the hand holds.
Some folks in the country cannot imagine a road that exhibits a bucking like a bronco on a motorcycle - here in the northeast it’s a real thing in many places. How the highways/ roads are allowed to be left in a state of disrepair or partial work in progress with large lane-wide abrupt dips/ uplifts, potholes etc is beyond me.
Wayne, Carol & Blue
Do passengers actually use the handles on the C10? At least they look useful, and very strong. I never got the point of the little loop bar at the back of sportbike seats, or even the flimsy strap across the seat of classic British bikes or UJMs. Aside from given you something to secure tail bag, I can't imagine a passenger actually using them. On my sportbikes, my riders always just held onto me.
Be careful with arm rests, if the roads are bad / rough the arm rest is to your shoulders like locking your arms to the hand holds.
Some folks in the country cannot imagine a road that exhibits a bucking like a bronco on a motorcycle - here in the northeast it’s a real thing in many places. How the highways/ roads are allowed to be left in a state of disrepair or partial work in progress with large lane-wide abrupt dips/ uplifts, potholes etc is beyond me.
Wayne, Carol & Blue
Carol used the grab bars on the C-10 and now the C-14 as her primary stabilizing hold, other than the foot pegs.Do passengers actually use the handles on the C10? At least they look useful, and very strong.





