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GPZ 900 IGNITER

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deanbuffington909409

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I have a 2000 ZG 1000. Can someone tell me if the GPZ 900 igniter is a direct fit for my bike. I have been reading that the 900 igniter is a great upgrade for the ZG 1000. Can someone tell me what makes it better and why.

Thanks Dean
 
I installed zx1000 cams, and 36mm gpz1100 carbs. Tried the zx1000 igniter and it hit rev limit too soon. Went back to the c10 igniter. A gentleman on the FB group for 86-87 zx1000 ninja stated that the gpz900 igniter is a good upgrade. I found one on eBay for like $60 shipped. I felt it woke the bike up and was worth the money spent. It looks exactly the same and is plug and play. No mods necessary. I haven’t heard of anyone else doing it to the c10. I’ve also done the free power mod and installed 4 individual coil packs.
 
That is what I wanted to know. Thank you for that info Sir. Could you please give me the # of the Igniter you put in your bike. When you say it woke the bike up. What exactly did it do in your opinion.

Thank You. Dean
 
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That is what I wanted to know. Thank you for that info Sir. Could you please give me the # of the Igniter you put in your bike. When you say it woke the bike up. What exactly did it do in your opinion.

Thank You. Dean
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Ok it’s 21119-1110. Ours is 21119-1111. I mixed that up before sorry. For example it just had better throttle response and pulled through the gears harder. Remember I also had a bunch of other mods done. Your results may not be the same as mine. But it’s cheap enough to give it a shot.
 
Found out mine has a 21119-1111 in it rt now Isn't that # for the GPZ 900 I think. Do you suppose some one possibly changed mine out at sometime. Well whatever happened I'am pleased to have it.




Dean
 
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And;
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1984-1985 Kawasaki ZX900 Ninja, ZL900, igniter box, cdi, computer, #6 | eBay

Igniter computer box. 1984-1985 Kawasaki ZX-900A, ZL-900. A&J Cycle Salvage was established in 1987 as a small salvage yard. Philadelphia, PA.
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Note that I found differencing numbers for the ZX or GPZ 900 igniters.
Confusing!
 
Yes, The differing ECU's numbers are very confusing.
Part of the issue is Ebay sellers don't always get their information right about what the part fits.

Another might be; Possibly C-10s from differing area's use different ECU's?
For instance, the California bikes have different jetting etc. and have to pass different Emissions standards.
So maybe they had different ECU's?
(thinking about it) Maybe the Canadian bikes could be different.
Lastly, on Ebay the items being offered may be from another Continent/Eu/etc entirely.

Ride safe, Ted

PS: Glad to see that you're still with us on the Forum.
 
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So, I mounted a 1000 GPZ RX CDI N° 21119-1165 on my GTR 1000.
Namely that it is equipped with a modified exhaust gear of 3.5°, that I made the modification "Mod 2 Min" of Steve, that the conical engine torque is that of the ZL1000, it pulls longer, that the CDI is connected directly to at least the battery.
in addition I rarely exceed 4000 turns.
First impressions, idling is the same, acceleration and climb in low revs are the same, it is from 2700 rpm that I find that the engine accelerates faster and stronger.
I will try again especially on roads more in altitude and I tell you my feelings. ;)
 
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This morning, it was the turn of the sidecar to go for a ride with the CDI 1000 RX.
-3.5° modified exhaust gear.
-Modified "Mod 2 Min" from Steve.
-CDI is connected directly to at least the battery.
-I rarely exceed 3500 rounds.
-4 in 1 exhaust.
-The total weight is higher, plus you always ride in pairs.

Same observation that the solo at low revs, by cons it goes up faster in the laps with a regular torque, I was surprised by the speed at the entrance of several turns, I think that for the sidecars, it is adopted it will keep the CDI of the RX. ;) (y)
more when to find another for solo :giggle:
 
FERABERN. No telling how much money you have in your sidecar. I had a front suspension like your sidecar has on my 250 Yamaha Enduro. It was called a Van-Tech. The sidecar is one of the nicest I have ever seen. ( Absolutely Beautiful work of art ) If you are ever in Mobile Alabama I would love to go for a ride in Mimile. Keep up the good work.

Dean
 
Merci pour les compliments
le side-car que j'ai acheté d'occasion il y a dix ans dans ce coloris, 3000 euros et je l'ai modifié pour le confort général, je fais tout moi-même, je ne passe jamais par un garagiste, ça me coûterait trop cher, pour information, le solo GTR que j'ai acheté 300 euros, cassé, une bielle tordue, je l'ai réparé à moindre coût et ça roule.
il faut parcourir mon blog, je ne gagne pas d'argent avec, c'est juste pour partager, je prends un côté et je lui rend un autre

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Bonjour de France

Bonjour je m'appelle Bernard, j'habite en France, pilote d'enduro toute ma vie, un passage par une XJ900 que j'ai vite abandonné à regret et me voilà depuis environ neuf ans avec un side-car GTR 1000/Jewell (Mimile) avec qui nous allons régulièrement sorti avec ma femme qui adore ça aussi, j'ai...
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Thanks for the compliments the sidecar that I bought used ten years ago in this color, 3000 euros and I modified it for general comfort, I do everything myself, I never go through a garage, it would cost me too much, for information, the solo GTR that I bought 300 euros, broken, a twisted connecting rod, I repaired it at a lower cost and it rolls. You have to browse my blog, I don't make money with it, it's just to share, I take one side and I give it another
 
Thank you Deanbuffington909409 for having awakened my curiosity (y) ;) , after a few walks with the sidecar, the RX CDI is formidable of efficiency and contrary to what I said, it is great at all regimes, the rise in the towers and the couple is smoothed, a real happiness and it is even more true on the small mountain roads, than happiness :love:
output of the day, we went to see the emptying of a hydroelectric dam
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Bernard you got new front shocks on Mimile. That thing is so cool. If I saw that sidecar coming at me I would probably think it was a Helicopter fixing to land. Lots of lights on Mimile that means you can see it coming. Beautiful building paintings in your portfolio. Did you paint any of those. Tell the truth now.
Bernard. I got a Beagle that would love to go riding in your sidecar

Dean
 
I’ve tried 3 igniters. The oem the c10 igniter. 21119-1111. Ninja 1000 igniter or gpz1000rx igniter, forgot the pn. Then finally at the gpz1000ex Fb group page someone suggested the gpz900 igniter and said it’s an improvement over the ninja/rx 1000 igniter. he also said a zl600 igniter and zx6 igniter from the same time period would give similar results. C10 igniter revved as high as I needed it. The ninja 1000 or rx igniter I didn’t really notice much of a difference of power at lower rpm and it would stop revving right around 10,000 rpm. Now I’ve got the gpz900 igniter 21119-1110. I felt the bike wake up. I’m also running ninja cams with 7 degree advanced exhaust (of course copycatting) and 36mm carbs from 96 gpz1100 with a factory pro needle, K&N filter with shaved down slide insert to keep the airbox from splitting, free power mod(more Steve S copy catting) where I grounded the igniter, the accessory port positive and negative directly to the battery and the wire from the junction box black with yellow tracer directly to the battery. I’ve got coil on plug x4 zx14 coil packs 1.4 ohms of resistance per coil pack adding up to 2.8 total considering they are wired in series. I also used different spark plugs dpr8ea9 which are a little deeper into the cylinder. The gpz900 igniter made the biggest difference and bike pulls hard to 10k rpm and will go out to 11 no prob without it flattening out much. If one of you guys want to try the ninja igniter I’d sell it for what I paid. Like 60-80 bucks I have to check my eBay account. If you don’t rev high like me it won’t matter. I’m not tuning my bike like the typical Connie rider looking for torque around 4k. I’m using it to commute and hit the twisties like a road racer riding in high revs.
 
As already mentioned, I rarely go above 3500 rpm with the sidecar and in the current configuration it goes super well to lead to these diets, thank you for your remarks, I prefer to ride quietly and enjoy the landscape
 
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Bernard, tu as de nouveaux amortisseurs avant sur Mimile. Ce truc est tellement cool. Si je voyais ce side-car venir vers moi, je penserais probablement que c'était un hélicoptère sur le point d'atterrir. Beaucoup de lumières sur Mimile qui signifient que vous pouvez le voir venir. De belles peintures de bâtiments dans votre portfolio. En avez-vous peint un ? Dites la vérité maintenant.
Bernard. J'ai un Beagle qui adorerait monter dans ton side-car

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Les amortisseurs avant sont de marques françaises, FOURNALES olepneumatiques que je reconditionne et modifie.
Les feux supplémentaires sont là pour mieux voir, je roule souvent de nuit sur des petites routes de montagne et là ça se passe bien.
On adore, ma femme et moi allons voir les peintures murales on adore cet art mais je ne suis pas peintre et je ne réussirai pas à réaliser d'aussi belles décorations.
 
To further confuse things, I just came across this one for sale. Look at the fitment chart.
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Used igniter box from a ZL900 parts bike. Guaranteed to be a working unit or free returns. Used on models and years listed below. Thanks for looking


Related Fitment
This Kawasaki 21119-1110 IGNITER fits the following models and components:

Aftermarket Parts Electrical Ignition Ignitions & CDI Modules

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1985 Ninja - ZX900-A2 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1986 Ninja - ZX900-A3 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1984 Ninja - ZX900-A1 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1985 Eliminator - ZL900-A1 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1986 Eliminator - ZL900-A2 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1989 Concours (Canada Only) - ZG1000-A4 Ignition Coil

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1991 Concours - ZG1000-A6 Ignition Coil

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1990 Concours - ZG1000-A5 Ignition Coil

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1996 Concours (Canada Only) - ZG1000-A11 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1997 Concours - ZG1000-A12 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2004 Concours - ZG1000-A19 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2003 Concours - ZG1000-A18 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1995 Concours - ZG1000-A10 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2000 Concours - ZG1000-A15 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1987 Concours - ZG1000-A2 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2001 Concours - ZG1000-A16 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1992 Concours - ZG1000-A7 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1994 Concours - ZG1000-A9 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1988 Concours - ZG1000-A3 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2002 Concours - ZG1000-A17 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2005 Concours - ZG1000-A20 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1999 Concours - ZG1000-A14 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2006 Concours - ZG1000A6F Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1998 Concours - ZG1000-A13 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1993 Concours - ZG1000-A8 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1986 Concours - ZG1000-A1 Ignition System
 
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I had asked a friend, who has a ZL900, the CDI and 2119-1111, by cons on the technical review, the California model ZL has a different curve, can a beginning of response ?

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connie_rider said:
To further confuse things, I just came across this one for sale. Look at the fitment chart.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Used igniter box from a ZL900 parts bike. Guaranteed to be a working unit or free returns. Used on models and years listed below. Thanks for looking


Related Fitment
This Kawasaki 21119-1110 IGNITER fits the following models and components:

Aftermarket Parts Electrical Ignition Ignitions & CDI Modules

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1985 Ninja - ZX900-A2 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1986 Ninja - ZX900-A3 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1984 Ninja - ZX900-A1 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1985 Eliminator - ZL900-A1 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1986 Eliminator - ZL900-A2 Ignition

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1989 Concours (Canada Only) - ZG1000-A4 Ignition Coil

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1991 Concours - ZG1000-A6 Ignition Coil

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1990 Concours - ZG1000-A5 Ignition Coil

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1996 Concours (Canada Only) - ZG1000-A11 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1997 Concours - ZG1000-A12 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2004 Concours - ZG1000-A19 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2003 Concours - ZG1000-A18 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1995 Concours - ZG1000-A10 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2000 Concours - ZG1000-A15 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1987 Concours - ZG1000-A2 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2001 Concours - ZG1000-A16 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1992 Concours - ZG1000-A7 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1994 Concours - ZG1000-A9 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1988 Concours - ZG1000-A3 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2002 Concours - ZG1000-A17 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2005 Concours - ZG1000-A20 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1999 Concours - ZG1000-A14 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 2006 Concours - ZG1000A6F Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1998 Concours - ZG1000-A13 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1993 Concours - ZG1000-A8 Ignition System

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1986 Concours - ZG1000-A1 Ignition System
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Yes it will work in all the bikes but if I recall correctly the zl900 had the 1111 part number not 1110. I suggest someone else besides me try to 🤣1110. I’d like to hear the results. Felt like I gained power at every rpm.
 
The big problem is that it is often confusing :(

In addition, there is no technical data on this CDI ???

CDI Kawasaki 1000 GTR (ZGT00A) 1986-2003, GPZ 900 R (ZX900A) 1987-1993 (21119-1110) - Speck Moto Pièces

CDI Kawasaki 1000 GTR (ZGT00A) 1986-2003, GPZ 900 R (ZX900A) 1987-1993 (21119-1110)
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Good point Ferabern. I just looked at everything I can see on Ebay. Some of the Igniters are listed as 21119-1110, but if you look closely at the Igniter, their marked 21119-1111.

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This is from Ferabern's post; Same thing.
Box is 21119-1110 and Igniter is 21119-1111.

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Ya'll are gonna hate me.
But (because of all the info we're seeing) I'm not convinced that the ZX/GPZ-900 or -1000 Igniters are any different than the ZG-1000 igniters.

I think we may have a placebo effect going on.

NOTE: Seat of the pants feel does not prove anything. (Because it's not measurable).
The ONLY way to know that there is "actually" a difference is to do {before and after} Roll-on tests!!!

(Let the flames begin)

Ride safe, Ted
 
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I bought mine from an ad stating it came off the gpz900. No part number mentioned. I got the idea to do it from a gpz1000rx FB group member because I complained in the group that the gpz1000rx (ninja 1000) igniter would hit a rev limiter too early. He said use the gpz900, zl600, or ninja 600 igniter from that era. I’m only really been riding the c10 a couple years but I’m 38. I’m a Gm tech at the most prominent GM dealer on the east coast and I started working at a motorcycle dealer wrenching when I was 15 and worked in bike shops for many years. It was even a Kawasaki dealer and they had the c10’s on the showroom floor. I’ve been modifying my cars and dirt bikes for years. It was a noticeable difference but I also have ninja cams and 36mm carbs. Might not make that much of a difference to someone running torque cams.
 
Motorcycle Rider; You sed the gpz1000rx (ninja 1000) igniter would hit a rev limiter too early.

It occurs to me that maybe the problem is; you're Igniter has bad components in it (like the ones that Ferabern changed out on his).

Ferabern; not sure what you're showing us as I can't get the words on the left side of the chart to translate. I see that one group are all 21119-1110 but usure what "that" group is?
** Maybe "Boltler (or Bottler) Ignition", but unsure what that is?
 
Ignition box
weird things is all GTR 1000 have a 21119-1111
to repair a CDI of 1000 RX it is misery, it is filled with silicone and to remove it not simple
 
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