Ian watching all the discussion, not sold 100% on the Angel GT 2-A’s. Like the former feel on acceleration out of a corner but not doing thing the tracking on parallel grooves.FWIW, I have about 2000 miles on the RS4 tires. My rear looks like it has worn about 1mm.
The feel is nice. I've never had them slip over the winter, but I also dial back my enthusiasm on the right hand for the winter months.
I'm debating between the RS3, the RS4 and the Conti RA3. All three have a rebate going on. Will the RA4 give sufficient additional mileage to justify the price difference between it and the RS3? And I think the Conti RA3 felt smoother.
Chris
I would disagree with this statement. But that's just my opinion.Probably any of these tires will perform about the same in wet or dry conditions.
Just make sure you got the C14 size, not my BNW F800GT size.Chris
Thanks for putting out that updated chart!
I just ordered a set of Dunlop RS3's
At a total cost of 217 after the rebate was the clincher for me.
Thats a great tire at a great price.
Nick
2014 C-14
I could not find a current rebate for them. So I ordered another set of the RS IIsChris
Thanks for putting out that updated chart!
I just ordered a set of Dunlop RS3's
At a total cost of 217 after the rebate was the clincher for me.
Thats a great tire at a great price.
Nick
2014 C-14
Yep! I found that too . So I just ordered another set of the RS 2s which I had not been able to find. Now I have a pair of RS 3s and 2s with a low mileage rear on the shelf. I am paranoid about shortages.Very true. But...if you want the Dunlop rebate, it has to be a store purchase. Revzilla won't work. No online source will work.
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I hate to say this, but I agree with Cliff. {Please don't tell anyone I sed that}If I'm reading this right you're are going back with a T021. Best thing you could do is use this for a excuse to dump them & get something better. There is nothing good about the OEM stones.
At the very least plug it & get a few thousand miles of it anyway before spending that $238.00 on another!
2224 miles and you haven't wore the tits off the sides?
Ya really shoulda gone to Arkansas with us.
Ride safe, Ted
Ted, Tire looks like it was just mounted. Give the guy a break.2224 miles and you haven't wore the tits off the sides?
Ya "really" shoulda gone to Arkansas with us.
Ride safe, Ted
Ted, Tire looks like it was just mounted. Give the guy a break.
Got the tires today and drove 165 km / 100 miles. For much of the first 100 km I drove past the road construction for the Site C Dam so sand, trucks, and construction speed zones. The last 60 km or so I got to push them just a little bit and them seemed awesome.I just ordered RoadSmart 4s. I am going to keep a record of how they perform and will update this post. It will be a couple weeks before the tires and my bike are a unit.
Cost: $471.03 CDN $383.84 USD
I will be watching to see mileage and long term how they hold up for you. Any 2-up riding.Today was my first spirited ride on the new RoadSmart IVs and at this point in time, I give them full marks. Seemed flawless. Traffic was nearly non-existent and the weather decent. After a few twists and turns it was obvious the bike wanted to exceed what is considered wise and prudent.
Which Roadsmart? I have used 3 and now running 4's. I felt that my RS 3's outlasted my Angel Spec A. However, it is just in my head as I did not keep track of the mileage.I put on the Roadsmarts before the Spyder ride last fall. THey replaced the Angel Spec As. Reaaly stable through the curves down in Missouri last falll and held up OK. Not as ling lived as the Spec As and much less than the PR4s I have run for years. I replaced those RSs with a new set of PR4s before heading down to the Hocking Hills for Memorial Day as The Roadsmarts were getting pretty worn.
I think that is the order at this point. I keep coming back to the Michelins over the course of 90k+ on the 08 and now 75k on the 13.
In order of driveability and wear along with value, my personal ranks of the last few sets. Tried several other sets but those are my top 3 so far.. YMMV
PR4
Spec A
PR3
Roadsmart
The RS 3’s another 537 miles yesterday. ~340-350 miles on the super slab; ~180-190 miles twisted heaven.
Total now on the clock ~2200 miles - still feel good; strong. Little notchy last night on way home in medium turns / super slab but nothing terrible. We run air pressure on HWY 43F / 45R, then twisties 42F / 43R.
Not quite as smooth as expected but gripping great and feathering not near as bad as Michelins - at least for us. We ride 2-up 99% of time and like to pretend pretend we’re attempting escape velocity through the mountain twisties or attempting time warp travel occasionally on the Super Slab!
Good Point - The amount of miles we travel, at extended high speed, extra couple PSI 2-up seems to help stave off the large flat spot for at least a few hundred miles.Curious to know if you find the road a bit bumpy at those pressures. I keep mine at 41 front and 43 rear, but then we don’t have all that many twisties here in Houston metro.
I was considering doing an Archie Bunker tirade, but I'll save it for another time when I have a few IPAs in me. :^ ) LOL AB
I now have 5000 km / 3100 miles on RS4s. They look and handle like new.I just ordered RoadSmart 4s. I am going to keep a record of how they perform and will update this post. It will be a couple weeks before the tires and my bike are a unit.
Cost: $471.03 CDN $383.84 USD
I was just thinking about measuring our tread depth tonight (not lucky smooth to rack up the mileage this weekend) ~4,200 miles / smiles after this afternoon.Info not posted elsewhere in thread. Just received RS4's in 190/50/17 size, have these observations on what will be my first Dunlops ever run:
Front tread depth 6/32" (deeper than my prior Avon Storm 3's),
Rear tread depth 9/32" (barely less than the 9.5/32" of the Avons),
Front tire appears totally rounded profile, much like my last Michelin tire profile; whereas the Avon Storm has a slightly triangulated profile - which I always credited with its effortlessly turning into the corner (this was a handling plus).
Not yet mounted...
I remember the RS IIIs slipping once, but that was probably my fault. I turned at a light under an overpass to get on the freeway and there probably was some slick stuff that collected there...and I gave it the gas like it was in July, not November. My bad.
Thanks for the verification. I was on the fence with trying this one but I had the same experience with the 3's in the wet so I won't waste my time on the 4s. With those kinds of miles I got to assume you change your own tires. The miles I put on in the rain demands sure feet.My experience with the rs3 and rs 4 is like what Fred said. I tried the 3 last year and thought it was a decent tire but it would break loose in the wet. So I just now tried a 4 since they're supposed to be better. Well they are no better in the wet. But mileage is good. My average rear miles is 3500. This rs4 is at 5000 and not unsafe. But I won't buy any more.
I mounted the RS4's and got a single 200 mile ride - my riding buddy lead a three bike trip at a moderate pace through good roads. I thought the tires handled very well. I then got covid (no sweat, thanks to booster shot) and other things in life happened ..., so haven't given them more miles . Initial RS4 impression is good, though. Do appreciate your recommendation, 2andblue.Red Fox we have about 3900 miles on the RSIV and so far these are the best looking, evenly wearing tires for us. 95% 2-UP with 80% highway miles and 20% playing in the twisties. ...
Red Fox let us know how your thoughts.
Wayne, Carol & Blue
Because of a family issue, I was not able to do much riding since I installed these tires. Well, that has passed and I am able to do more riding. The tires now have 13,700 km (8500 miles). They served me well. Coming home the other day on a wet road it felt like the back tire slipped a bit. Not 100% it was not my imagination but switching them out on Friday. This is an about 2000 km more than I usually get so they get top marks in my book.I just ordered RoadSmart 4s. I am going to keep a record of how they perform and will update this post. It will be a couple weeks before the tires and my bike are a unit.
Cost: $471.03 CDN $383.84 USD
Ted you guys ever try the 4’s?Clarification: Jim and I are considered lowly trailer guys by some of ya.
We understand why some of y'all may dislike our approach, but we're at the point that we prefer to trailer to an event and then enjoy riding the area. NOT by doing miles and miles of straight roads getting there.
The result of this is; we don't get good mileage out of our tires. (because almost all of our miles are done in the twisties).
ie; Our tires are NOT worn out in the center when we replace them. The edges are worn.......
<contented smiles>
Of the tires we've tried, we really liked the RS II's and III's.
Good handling, no slip, even wear.
Ride safe, Ted
Sounds like you have tip over bars installed or we would be hearing about more damage. Hope that's the case anyway. It's not a good way to start the day looking at your bike laying on the ground.Well, the way I ride I got 9,000 on the front and 11,000 on the rears with the III. Mostly straight 2 lane and interstate.
With the IV so far have 10,000 on the front still has plenty left and 7,000 on the rear. Put 5800 miles going out to the National then drove back through CA down to Phoenix through Arkansas back to Iowa. Only issue was someone didn't like my bike in CA and they tipped it over in the motel parking lot when I was asleep. Broke the right mirror and mirror bracket. So have some work to do to fix everything.
Any security video at the hotel parking lot? I would be livid.Well, the way I ride I got 9,000 on the front and 11,000 on the rears with the III. Mostly straight 2 lane and interstate.
With the IV so far have 10,000 on the front still has plenty left and 7,000 on the rear. Put 5800 miles going out to the National then drove back through CA down to Phoenix through Arkansas back to Iowa. Only issue was someone didn't like my bike in CA and they tipped it over in the motel parking lot when I was asleep. Broke the right mirror and mirror bracket. So have some work to do to fix everything.
IV’s even better mileage and grip! Bit of a premium, however I think worth it.I'll add my .02 per Ted's request. Like Ted, I bought some RS2's because they were cheap & I'm cheap, not to mention I go through a lot of tires. I also put the RS3's on front like he mentioned.
I put this set on & then rode down to MS to tell my mom Happy Mother's Day, for a total of 760 miles. Then rode out to the Nationals for a total of 7,015 miles. So all total I've got 7,775 miles on these tires.
The most mileage I have ever got. It was a lot of highway, but a lot of twisties out west. I have one more set of these so we'll see how they fare.
Your mileage is similar to when we ran the suite of Michelin tires.Damn you guys get a lot of mileage out of tires! I've seldom seen more than 5-6K out of a rear tire (generally I run Michelin Pilot Road 4GT , 5GT , etc. or Road 6 GT). I'm a small rider (155 lbs. soaking wet), I check my tire pressure nearly every ride, don't put a bunch of weight on the bike, and almost never ride two up.
I guess, the roads I ride might have something to do with it! Shaniko, OR to Fossil, OR is my general playground, with many other nearly equally twisty and sweeper roads all around my area.View attachment 38671
I'll take low mileage and high smileage any time.
Another favorite section of road is Service Creek, OR to Kimberly, OR. Much rubber left on the asphalt on that section of roadway.
I may test another tire since most of my riding is on dry, and warm pavement. Not too concerned with wet/cold performance... until I get caught in it. It's worth the experiment to try another tire. As soon as I burn through my existing Road 6GT's, I may give the Dunlop maker a try.Your mileage is similar to when we ran the suite of Michelin tires.
Dunlop Sportmax Roadsmart IV is the first tire that consistently delivers 6,500 - 7,500 high performance miles.
Wayne
I get the same out of the 3s but I am not 2 up.Your mileage is similar to when we ran the suite of Michelin tires.
Dunlop Sportmax Roadsmart IV is the first tire that consistently delivers 6,500 - 7,500 high performance miles.
Wayne