Vern, I've had the touring seat for over a year now. And it's so much better than any of the other c14 seats I've tried. I have a 2010 that came with a Sargent. I went to a 2 piece corbin, then found a stock 2009 gel seat. Nothing jelly about it ,.found a stock 2016, that according to everything I read was suppose to have been redesigned with different padding and less slant. Wasn't bad, but after trying my buddies c14 with a touring seat, the search was on. Granted it's not as good as the winged premium seats like RDL. Baldwin etc...but I have had no issues riding 600+ mile on it .I'm interested in how it performs.