They make those in earbuds also. I have tried them but they irritate me after a while.Thank you everyone for the replies. Just to be clear, I want to use these instead of earplugs under my helmet.
Something I find interesting, is the rubber ends are almost a simple domed design. Back when I used wired earbuds, the ones that reduced noise the best had multiple flanges.
Chris
They make those in earbuds also. I have tried them but they irritate me after a while.
I would like to try the speaker ,/ plug thing .I tried earbuds for a short period of time and 1) had problems with them staying in because I have narrow ear canals and 2) the batteries had a very short lifespan between charging. I now use a communication device mounted on the side of my helmet with a boom mike and connected speakers installed in the ear pockets inside the helmet, this allows me to still wear protective ear plugs. I can get FM radio, FM & AM radio from my phone as well as GPS commands plus link up and talk to other riders (a function I rarely use).
One speaker on each side with different feeds? A separate one for the radar?I should perhaps describe my reasons for wanting some kind of noise-cancelling earbuds.
I have a Sena 10C Pro BT headset. A Samsung Note 9 phone. And the Garmin Zumo XT. I also have a Uniden DFR-9 radar detector. And I use the Sena's Group Intercom function when riding with some people. The Uniden DFR-9 has a BT transmitter/receiver plugged into the Uniden radar detector's earphone plug.
My goal is to get a reliable connection with all the pieces. The phone and Sena headset connect with the GPS. That has worked well in the past. My goal is to get the Uniden/BT transmitter to fit in reliably to the mix.
Options I see are:
The last option is what I'm exploring here. If I can get a BT connection from the radar detector to the earbuds, I take them out of the unreliable connection that funnels through the GPS/Phone/Sena headset. But I don't want to lose my hearing, so I'm hoping to find some effective BT earbuds. I could care less about music fidelity...I just want to hear the radar detector and protect my hearing.
- Get a reliable BT connection.
- Reinstall the Marc Parnes Visual Alert. It's a set of bright LED lights. The only "problem" is you know you have a radar alert, but you don't know what band it is.
- Use BT noise-cancelling earbuds to connect to the Uniden transmitter.
Helmet speakers are probably not feasible in this case. Those are already there because of the Sena headset. I doubt I could install a second set of speakers in the available space.
Chris
Cool, that is much cheaper than an Autocom unit. I'll look into that and the thread you referenced. Thanks!There is a device that takes 3 inputs. I posted it under the detector thread.
Incredible improvement especially for long days and x2 if you are riding with a passenger or other motorcyclists.I would like to try the speaker ,/ plug thing .
I think I worked out a solution for me...but I haven't answered the BT noise-reduction earbud question. I'm not sure there's an answer. What works for most environments, just doesn't work for fitting under a helmet and I want something that'll last for 8-10 hours a day without my ears being more sore than my derrière.I'm following along here because there is a problem in this area, well several really but the main one is the need for one more BT connection. If only Garmin XT would connect to a Sena, a phone, and a radar detector at the same time then one problem would be solved. The other problem is getting that sound into our ears at a reasonable volume without the wind noise coming in too.
Although I'd love to be wrong about the first problem, (anybody?..., anybody?...) I don't think there is currently a way to cheaply get one more BT connection in there to add the radar detector.
Cool, that is much cheaper than an Autocom unit. I'll look into that and the thread you referenced. Thanks!
I have it hooked up on the bike now and will be trying it out a bit more. Will report back as soon as I do.Cool, that is much cheaper than an Autocom unit. I'll look into that and the thread you referenced. Thanks!
Thank you. I was actually referring to a speaker in the helmet with ear plug in. I guess what I have works fine for me. No passenger and usually ride alone, at least on long trips.Incredible improvement especially for long days and x2 if you are riding with a passenger or other motorcyclists.
I can send you a pair of SENAs to try - they’re older but work good. You pay shipping?
Wayne, Carol & Blue
Hey that is my problem...so you now have an audio alert through your headset and no more need for the MP Visual Alert?...or do you have both hooked up? Never mind I guess your photo answered that, just the BT is hooked up.I think I worked out a solution for me...but I haven't answered the BT noise-reduction earbud question. I'm not sure there's an answer. What works for most environments, just doesn't work for fitting under a helmet and I want something that'll last for 8-10 hours a day without my ears being more sore than my derrière.
I think the first way I hooked up the BT headset a couple years ago, was the phone connected to both the GPS and the BT headset. That left no available channel when the GPS connected to the BT headset. That sounds like what you're facing fartymarty. That led me to get the Marc Parnes Visual Alert.
So this time, I have the phone only connected to the GPS. Calls get answered through the GPS interface only. The BT headset has two connections...the GPS and the radar detector transmitter. That transmitter seems to like connecting first, so I turn on the BT headset and then the radar detector transmitter and all is well. Start the bike up, and the GPS finds the remaining BT headset channel and syncs up with the phone too. It's worked about six times now with no issues.
The transmitter I'm using for the radar detector is tiny. It's smaller than one of the old packages for wooden matches. I put it on the side of the radar detector using Velcro.
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Chris
Yes Sena units have speakers in the helmets. No worries.Thank you. I was actually referring to a speaker in the helmet with ear plug in. I guess what I have works fine for me. No passenger and usually ride alone, at least on long trips.
A friend of mine went on a 5 day trip and they decided to use comms. He said the guy never shut up!
Thanks again for the offer. Appreciated.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.Hey that is my problem...so you now have an audio alert through your headset and no more need for the MP Visual Alert?...or do you have both hooked up? Never mind I guess your photo answered that, just the BT is hooked up.
If I have audio I guess I won't need the visual alert, since I also have the V1 remote display. I'm gonna try that set up with the second channel on the headset....one more usb charging thing each night at the motel.
If I'm understanding your problem, is that you want to try BT earbuds instead of wired ones from a Sena/Cardo/other unit...so you'd put a BT dongle on the output of the Sena/Cardo/other unit? I'm still interested in this thread, some BT earbuds with active noise cancelling would be great!
Let's see now, what would need to get charged each night....1) Sena, 2) BT dongle for radar detector, 3) cell phone, 4)BT dongle for connection to noise cancelling ear buds, 5) BT ear buds, 6) helmet brake light...hmm only six items, I can do that. I certainly hope they don't find out that BT causes brain cancer..that'll be a lot of BT floating around my head.
Thanks Chris, I ordered the BT transmitter yesterday.They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
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In the "Before" setup, I would get parts of the BT connections. Very unreliable...which is understandable when I look at it now. I added the Marc Parnes Visual Alert. It worked very well, but I like the audio alert better. BTW, Marc Parnes' customer service is excellent. I would not hesitate to buy anything from him.
The "Now" setup works. The GPS has two BT channels. The Sena BT headset has two BT channels. I'm not trying to add a third device to either, so the connections are stable.
A BT transmitter like I have will cost you @ $20.
Here's what I was thinking of when I asked the question.
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What I was trying to do, was take the radar detector transmitter out of the GPS/Phone/Headset connection. A wired connection to earbuds would work, but I'm concerned about hearing damage from road and wind noise. Plus, I'm already dealing with plugging in heated gear and the airbag vest tether. I didn't want one more. As it turns out, I don't need to deal with that.
Chris
If you need help, just let me know.Thanks Chris, I ordered the BT transmitter yesterday.
So you are using earbuds to get the detector and then the rest goes to the helmet speakers?They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
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In the "Before" setup, I would get parts of the BT connections. Very unreliable...which is understandable when I look at it now. I added the Marc Parnes Visual Alert. It worked very well, but I like the audio alert better. BTW, Marc Parnes' customer service is excellent. I would not hesitate to buy anything from him.
The "Now" setup works. The GPS has two BT channels. The Sena BT headset has two BT channels. I'm not trying to add a third device to either, so the connections are stable.
A BT transmitter like I have will cost you @ $20.
Here's what I was thinking of when I asked the question.
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What I was trying to do, was take the radar detector transmitter out of the GPS/Phone/Headset connection. A wired connection to earbuds would work, but I'm concerned about hearing damage from road and wind noise. Plus, I'm already dealing with plugging in heated gear and the airbag vest tether. I didn't want one more. As it turns out, I don't need to deal with that.
Chris
Gotcha. ThanksWhile a picture is worth a thousand words, too many pictures probably loses the message.
This is the setup I'm using now that works well.
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The GPS and Sena BT headset have two channels available. (As I'm looking at the above picture, I can see where it would be confusing still.)
The GPS uses its two channels to connect to the phone (for calls and music) and to the Sena headset.
The Sena headset has two channels. It uses one to connect to the GPS as above. The other is used to connect to the BT transmitter on the radar detector.
No earbuds needed now. So I can now continue using my earplugs.
Chris
If I am using just my helmet what you have above works for me too. As soon as I add my wife’s helmet to the mix and we share music it’s all over, the software gets corrupted on our headsets and will not connect to each other, goes completely haywire and must be reset / reflashed! We have the HJC RPHA 90S + Carbon with the purpose made SENA/ HJC 20B communicators. Customer service as well has been horrid, I don’t know what happened to the SENA company I had grown to like, promote and purchase reliable products from for years.Thanks for the help Chris, I haven't tested it in the field yet, but it works in the garage. Probably some volume level adjustments to make especially if I'm talking to another rider. Might also add a usb power supply if my cheap BT dongle on the radar detector will charge and function at the same time. That'd be one less thing to have to charge up each night.
I took the liberty of modifying your drawing. I knew what you meant, but the drawing still sorta showed 3 connections at the helmet and at the GPS, I wasn't sure if it was clear to everyone....I think I made it better??? (I made it uglier for sure )
Getting back to the original question (even though Chris is no longer interested), I still am interested if there is active noise cancellation as opposed to just noise isolation. My Shure 215s are just about perfect for me ...until they aren't...sometimes they work themselves out just enough to start letting in noise from my helmet and it starts to bother me. So although I don't really need BT earbuds, it seems easier to find those than wired ones that have active noise cancellation. If any of you are aware of active cancellation wired earbuds that may work inside a helmet please sound off here.Does anyone use BT noise-canceling earbuds? I'm wondering how well they work in replacing ear plugs.
Thanks,
Chris
That was a good idea. I've copied your post to a new thread titled Bluetooth Headset Setup. https://forum.concours.org/index.php?threads/bluetooth-headset-setup.54626/Back to the group box - any experience here Chris that you can pass along? I would be happy to start a new thread with us as the test case..
Wayne, Carol & Blue
I have used Plugfones for years now. The foam earplugs knock about 30db and you can Bluetooth music and navigational directions. I just tuck the extra cord I front of my chin and it rides securely on the front wind guard of my Neotec . Been all over the country with em(all over the Lower 48)& have 3 sets of em. About 10 hours battery life and several styles of foam tips so you can get a better fit. Check em out.Does anyone use BT noise-canceling earbuds? I'm wondering how well they work in replacing ear plugs.
Thanks,
Chris
Thanks for the help Chris, I haven't tested it in the field yet, but it works in the garage. Probably some volume level adjustments to make especially if I'm talking to another rider.
Item one: Connecting radar detector BT dongle to Sena. ...This worked very well for an audible alert from the radar detector to the helmet, and the GPS gave clear directions as well. However, when I tried to play any mp3 files from the XT GPS there was no audio as long as the radar detector connection was active. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me as the GPS audio (directions, warnings, touch screen input confirmation) all come through but mp3 audio doesn't even after confirming the volume settings and Music input was from the Garmin and not the phone. When the radar detector's BT dongle is turned off then the mp3 audio came through. I'm guessing that either this isn't going to work for me ....or ...I may need to power up things in a different order.....more garage experimentation is ahead.I ordered these and hope to put them to the test next week. Unfortunately this requires a BT dongle to be plugged in to my Sena earphone jack and one more item that needs recharging each night.
I'll report back here in a couple of weeks to give an update.
That's probably my problem, I'm sure I have the BT dongle for the radar detector on the second channel. I'll report back on all issues....eventually.Try connecting the BT dongle first. And go to the Wireless Network settings to see what is actually connecting, and what isn't to the Zumo XT. You may want to tell the GPS to "Forget" the Sena and your phone, then pair those up again.
Make sure you pair the GPS to the "Second" BT channel of the Sena. The pairing process is different on my Sena 10C Pro, and it isn't intuitive.
Chris
Yes & it's the way to go! I use Beat Buds.Does anyone use BT noise-canceling earbuds? I'm wondering how well they work in replacing ear plugs.
Thanks,
Chris
Does the microphone work for phone calls when you are riding? I'm wondering if the caller will be able to hear me with all the wind noise.I have used Plugfones for years now. The foam earplugs knock about 30db and you can Bluetooth music and navigational directions. I just tuck the extra cord I front of my chin and it rides securely on the front wind guard of my Neotec . Been all over the country with em(all over the Lower 48)& have 3 sets of em. About 10 hours battery life and several styles of foam tips so you can get a better fit. Check em out.
I really like my Shure 215s but they're getting long in the tooth. The foam plugs are a pain in the butt sometimes, especially when it's hot and sweaty they start to slowly slide out. So I just ordered these to see how they feel and sound. The Shure uses passive noise reduction, while this set on order has ANC (active noise cancelling) and the type plugs that don't wear out. They're washable in the sink which should help them stay clean and last more than one season. Plus, the battery life is phenomenal. I won't need to change out the battery necklace halfway through a day's outing... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B097HRNYJW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have not used those but use a earmuff type for goose hunting. Amplifies but cuts out the muzzle blasts . Tried them woodworking. They would cancel out real loud sounds but not annoying sanders and such. Didn't like them for in the wood shopBTW, has anyone tried these already? Noise Cancelling for the bad stuff, sound amplification for the good stuff? https://www.sigsauer.com/sig-sauer-axil-gs-extreme-in-ear-electronic-hearing-protection-bt.html